Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

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  1. Kokomojojo

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    Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in
    Pfizer’s vaccine trial

    https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/375/bmj.n2635.full.pdf

    Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577?articleTools=true

    Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9428332/pdf/main.pdf


    Seems there are lots of problems with this miracle vax that we arent privy to! Some of this stuff is rather shocking!

    Discuss
     
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    Hi, Koko, you presented us with a wealth of info... too much for me to absorb, sort out and extract the essence from it.
    just last week two of my children contracted the virus. Since they are vaccinated, they experience only some weak cold symptoms and expect to be done and over it sometime this week, like other family members before.

    Do you have any personal experiences? Obviously, you are alive, so that is already a good sign!
    I wish you a happy and healthy New Year!
     
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    sure do.

    caught it twice once before we knew it was covid and again in jan/feb.

    Never wore a mask except when forced to wear one.

    Never isolated except when I had it, otherwise out and about business as usual as best I could even though the place was like a ghost town.

    First time was very flu like, second didnt have that many symptoms but tested positive.

    I ask everyone I run across willing to talk about it.

    So I know lots of people that never had a vaccine nor any symptoms.

    I also know lots of people that had all the jabs and got sick as hell, had heart issues, long covid, a few have been off work for over a year because of vax zide effects.

    100% no one that I know that was healthy died.

    I know lots of people that took ivermectin from the vet supply while they had covid and they felt significantly better in a mere few hours and never landed in the hospital.

    Family members that got all the jabs wound up sicker suffered more than those who did not. (some still are)

    I refuse to take any vax, not the way these bozos went about pushing it through the system at warp speed, but then I have a standing policy that I dont take any drugs what so ever that have not been around for a minimum of 30 years.

    Anyway I posted that because now the other shoe is starting to drop and just because we have an iron curtain in this country other countries are giving us more honest results.



    Proper testing and data integrity is absolutely critical for our health, and the CDC and NIH still has not released all the data and the data they did release people were forced to acquired it through foia, not the usual open book channels.

    what possible reason would they want to with hold the data from us if there was not something in there they did not want us to see?
     
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    To try to cut to the chase, in the data on the government site (3rd link, NCBI), the Pfizer study-- used about 20,000 participants, in each group (vaccine & placebo). Of that number, 33 in the placebo group had certain, serious problems, whereas 52 who had rec'd the vaccine, experienced these events. That is 19 more, total, or about 10 more out of every 10, 000 people; IOW, these are literally 1 in 1000 types of events. That is not "perfectly safe," but only irresponsible medical & news people ever did claim that the vaccine was 100% safe. There is always some risk. Each individual need assess, for themself, if they consider these risks smaller than the risks of non immunization. Depending on the individual, the two may be fairly similar, or the Covid risk may be closer 1% (or more), which would be ten tines as great, when it comes to serious health consequences. Then again, we don't know all the effects of long Covid, yet; nor do I think we know how being vaccinated affects our odds of developing repercussions from long Covid.

    Now here's the data, which leads me to not read all this too literally. So the 52 Pfizer adverse events, equates to a 57% increased risk, compared to the placebo group. Moderna's study showed only a 36% higher risk, for these issues,from the placebo. Sounds better, right? Except that there were 87 cases of adverse effects with Moderna, and that was with a smaller subject group. In fact, in that study
    , 64 people in the placebo group, had these adverse incidents, which is more than in the larger group who'd received the Pfizer vaccine. Think about that: 52 problems, out of 20,000 people who'd received the vaccine, in one study, and 64 of these same problems, out of about only 13,000 people who didn't receive vaccines, in the other study. So these results need be taken with a grain of salt.

    We can add to this, that, in both studies combined, 97% of the adverse effects were event types which are also seen with COVID-19.

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    In both Pfizer and Moderna trials, the largest excess risk occurred amongst the Brighton category of coagulation disorders. Cardiac disorders have been of central concern for mRNA vaccines; in the Pfizer trial more cardiovascular AESIs occurred in the vaccine group than in the placebo group, but in the Moderna trial the groups differed by only 1 case.
    <End Snip>

     
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    Pfizer study?

    Like data we can 'depend' on?





    the Pfizer 'study' cough...wasnt even blind!

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    once upon a time they pulled vaxs off the market for 1 in 100,000, now its one in 800 is just a-ok and mandated no less!

    What happened?

    btw Campbell does a great job going over the numbers in his video provded above.
     
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    millions and millions have got the vax, the results were that it was safe and effective, and that is better than any trial, so seems they got it right
     
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    Ill get into later but the popular results are complete garbage
     
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    Similar experiences in my life. My 73 year old sister and her 80+ husband took the shots early. She (a nurse) soon realized her error and did not take any more, but her husband took 2 or 3 more. For the last 6 months they've had cold symptoms almost non-stop. She's feeling better now, but her husband cannot shake it, over months.

    I know 15 who've died after the shots, from 4 hours to more than a year, with the average being around 3-4 months after the injection. I know many who took only 1 shot and no more who are fairly healthy in appearance.

    The tests are what keeps the illusion alive. That's why they push them.
     
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    Which means that the vaccine is more dangerous to people than the virus if they're under 70 and have no commodities.
     
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    And the reason so many death certificates have covid listed is how many times they cycle the PCR tests.

    If the PCR test cycles for a particular country are larger than 24, then it's a positive result for residual, dead virus.

    Meaning people who have no risk of dying of covid are still listed as a covid death.
     
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    The results would have been the same if they were unvaccinated.

    Pointless for any child that isn't seriously at risk (major health problems) to be vaccinated against covid 19 at all.
     
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    No, you can't say that. I have not heard that the chance of serious complications from Covid, in any healthy person under 70, is less than one-tenth of one percent. I'm pretty sure, that is not true. Got data?
     
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    Even in the good health section the unvaxd did better than the vaxd!

    [​IMG]

    Yes reduces but still remarkably higher!
     
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    First off, your graph is only showing Mortality; your data I looked at, showed a list of numerous, serious adverse effects.

    And, secondly, the difference between the control group and the vaccinated group was only half as great-- 10 in 10,000-- as the lowest line on your graph, here, which appears to be at
    least 20 out of every 10,000.
     
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    I think its apparent the vaccines arent effective and now the remaining question is are they detrimental. I think so.

    Are Vaccines Fueling New Covid Variants? - WSJ
    WSJ: Vaccines are fueling the evolution of new COVID variants – HotAir

    One has to speculate why our government is pushing so hard for everyone to get ineffective vaccines that do more harm than good.
     
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    Well... you couldn't know, but my children are in their late fifties!!:D
     
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    That would be me as well, I had my last vaccination in 1960, when we had a polio scare in Canada.
    That's the trouble with covid, something is fishy about it. Did they release it on purpose or accidentally? Whom, if any, did they really mean to target? It looks like they want to reduce the world population. So far it hasn't made an ounce of difference, but that could change as time goes on. I read that the shots destroy our immune system over time and cause infertility.
    It dawns on me... to reduce the population by the Covid method is totally unsuited. Ask for volunteers to become infertile, and in countries with a population surplus, pass a law: no more than one child, like the Chinese did and maybe still do?

    And, just as important: Clean up our planet!!!
     
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    Hahahaha! Oh man I wasn't expecting that! Thank you for the good natured laugh instead of the normal cynical ones I get here.
     
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    That is a very serious question.
    They always declare an emergency then make a **** load of new legislation because in an emergency they can bypass the constitution, violating our rights then those laws have no sunset, iow they do not expire when the emergency is over.

    911 gave us the patriot act, this one gives us mandated jabs and a boat load of new travel restrictions
     
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    O.k., 9/11 = good example, has MEGA benefits to this day!

    Who benefits from mandated jabs? The pharmacies, and the government can put anything it wants into them, its an open door to mess with people's body and mind.

    Who benefits from travel restrictions? No idea.

    Who benefits from laws that violate our rights? The government? Why would they otherwise enact them? To take free speech away! To disarm the citizens! To demolish democracy and install dictatorship? -----> Canada, trucker protest was a beginning!
     

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