Reserving the presidency

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    I can’t figure out who is guilty of promoting nepotism. I do know this excerpt ties into the Left’s bitter hatred of Sarah Palin:

    Buzz is already building that budding TV journalist and former first daughter Chelsea Clinton will enter politics and become the first-ever woman president of the United States.​

    The first female president slot was always reserved for Hillary Clinton. Knowing Sarah would defeat Clinton in an even up match liberals turned into an angry mob attacking Sarah like she was a line-jumper on Black Friday.

    Hillary Clinton is still hopeful she will make the history books as the first lady president. If not, it’s only fair the reservation be willed to Chelsea along with the family silver.

    Dynasty?


    “. . . an Obama expert who advises Fortune 500 firms on communications has bluntly predicted a continuation of the Clinton dynasty.”​

    I’m not certain one husband and wife team hanging on like grim death constitutes a dynasty.

    Frankly, I think any mention of a Clinton dynasty is an attempt to cash in on the soap opera:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(TV_series)

    Naturally, Bill Clinton plays Blake Carrington while Hillary Clinton plays schemer Alexis Carrington. The question is: Which character will Chelsea play?

    Parenthetically, I’ve always wondered why so many show biz families fail to achieve dynasty status? One possible reason is that very few children of famous actors acquire the fame a dynasty requires. On the other hand, political dynasties abound on state and local levels, in addition to a few on the national level. Dynasty must have something to do with tax dollars!

    And isn’t it interesting that dictatorships like North Korea have dynasties? while the United States is the only Western democracy that elects dynasties. Here’s a scary question: Are Americans really closet monarchists?

    This final excerpt is head-scratcher:


    Many had presumed that her family's often acid relations with the media would repel her from the industry.​

    Acid relations? Give me a break! Had the constitutionally protected press done its job the late Ted Kennedy would not have been a Senator for 47 years, Hussein would not be president, and the Clintons would have been run out of politics in 1996 if not sooner. It’s a tough call trying to decide which of the three got the most media whitewash.

    Obama Expert Predicts Chelsea Clinton Presidency
    January 11, 2012

    Forget Hillary Clinton as vice president or a 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. Buzz is already building that budding TV journalist and former first daughter Chelsea Clinton will enter politics and become the first-ever woman president of the United States.

    Clinton associates have long whispered that the politically-trained daughter would be perfect for politics, but now an Obama expert who advises Fortune 500 firms on communications has bluntly predicted a continuation of the Clinton dynasty.

    "It doesn't matter if she keeps her new television job, or if she quits—Chelsea can do it," says Gil Peretz, author of Obama's Secrets, a book on how to communicate like the president. "She started to gain substantive political experience when she campaigned for her mother in 2008.

    "The name 'Clinton' could be the new 'Kennedy' buzz in politics," he adds.

    Peretz, promoting his book on Obama, suggests a Clinton run in 2020, when she will be 40.

    Clinton has eschewed politics, but did campaign briefly with her dad, Bill, during his 1996 presidential reelection campaign. She also played a starring role in her mother's New York Senate campaign.

    She also recently surprised friends when she joined NBC News as a special correspondent. Many had presumed that her family's often acid relations with the media would repel her from the industry.

    Peretz doesn't appear to have any ties to the Clintons, though he has analyzed Bill Clinton's post-presidential speeches. He also has a track record of observing politics and advising corporations including Microsoft, Motorola, Coca-Cola, and IBM on communications.

    "There are people who say that Chelsea is not as charismatic as her father," he says. "Not too many people know that 12 years ago, Barack Obama was an average communicator. Give her time. She has the best debate coaches at home."

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...ma-expert-predicts-chelsea-clinton-presidency
     
  2. CoolWalker

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    She can't speak her way out of a paper bag. Becoming president is impossible.
     
  3. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    I smelled a rat the instant I read this:

    Although Bill Clinton’s reputation as a statesman has long since recovered in most quarters following personal scandals in the 1990s, a new, four-hour documentary portrays the arc of his career as one littered with sexual dalliances and foibles.

    That’s doubly surprising when you consider the source: not a conservative production company but PBS.​

    No liberal media outlet is going to embarrass the Clintons. Take this one to the bank: Everything in the upcoming documentary has been common knowledge for a long time. So what is PBS’ motive? The answer is twofold:

    1. Trivialize the scandals by talking about them now so they will be old hat in the event Hillary is on the ticket this year.

    2. More importantly, play the victim card for Hillary.

    Remember when Clinton ran for the Senate in 2000? She was portrayed as the victim of Bubba’s lies and indiscretions, but she soldiered on anyway. Never mind that she was always in charge of bimbo eruptions. The sympathy her victimhood garnered was enough to make a hitman cry.

    This one took the prize:


    Hillary Clinton rescued her husband by going on television to demonstrate her support, making the now famous reference to the country song 'Stand by your man'.

    In the interview Mrs Clinton said: "I'm not sitting here, some little woman standing by her man. I'm sitting here because I love him and I respect him." ​

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1998/clinton_scandal/51104.stm

    What a load of crap that was. Ambition and lust for power commanded her loyalty. When all was said and done here’s the song most women heard:

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    PBS film eyes Clinton
    By: Patrick Gavin
    January 12, 2012 02:16 PM EST

    Although Bill Clinton’s reputation as a statesman has long since recovered in most quarters following personal scandals in the 1990s, a new, four-hour documentary portrays the arc of his career as one littered with sexual dalliances and foibles.

    That’s doubly surprising when you consider the source: not a conservative production company but PBS.

    “Clinton” is the latest installment in PBS’s “American Experience” series and is set to air in February. A half-hour sneak peak is being previewed Thursday evening at the National Press Club.

    The film covers Clinton’s life in its entirety — from his childhood in Arkansas to his first runs for office to his election as governor of Arkansas to his presidency — but almost a full hour of the documentary focuses on Clinton’s personal struggles with fidelity, coupled with harsh, blunt language from many of his colleagues and chroniclers. In fact, the film’s introduction, a quick summary of the entire documentary, opens with the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

    Eight minutes in, the topic of Gennifer Flowers surfaces.

    “There was this growing skepticism in the press that this guy was just a big phony,” Time’s Joe Klein said, discussing Clinton’s reaction to the allegations. “He was too slick. He was too smooth. And he would lawyer answers to questions.”

    When discussing the Clintons’ years in Arkansas, narrator Campbell Scott said, “Hillary had to deal with Bill’s constant womanizing.”

    “You’ve got to understand, at one time, there [were] at least 25 women per day coming through there trying to find him,” sais Paul Fray, Clinton’s campaign manager during his unsuccessful congressional run in 1974. “I’d tell them, 'He’s on the road, get out the door.' But, Lord, it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.”

    “He draws women in, and they are literally mesmerized by this man,” said Marla Crider, who was a congressional campaign aide to Clinton. “It was absolutely like fly on honey. And he needed that. He needed that kind of adoration.”

    The Lewinsky scandal occupies a nearly 40-minute stretch toward the end of the film and is largely used as the coda to Clinton’s time in office.

    “There were almost these sparks flying between them from that first moment when they saw each other,” said Ken Gormley, a law professor at Duquesne University and the author of “The Death of American Virtue: Clinton vs. Starr.”

    “It’s almost as though there was a part of Bill Clinton that he had no control over,” said William Chafe, a history professor at Duke University. “That whenever it had the opportunity to come out, it was going to come out and with no forethought, with no calculation, with no sense of the consequences; it was simply going to happen. And that’s terrifying.”

    Robert Reich, who served as Clinton’s Labor secretary from 1993 to 1997, said, “I’ve asked myself a number of times why he put himself and his presidency in jeopardy in such a careless way. … Maybe Bill Clinton, who so much needed and wanted to be loved, couldn’t say no to someone who was going to give him affection and wanted affection back.”

    When Reich first heard the rumors of an affair with Lewinsky, he said, “I was convinced that Bill Clinton had been set up. He’s got all these enemies who were out to get him. He wouldn’t be so stupid as to jeopardize his entire [presidency] for — what? That was not the Bill Clinton I knew.”

    “Monica Lewinsky just gave him something that he needed at that time: to be adored,” said Crider.

    Although quotes from Clinton observers and confidantes provide some of the juicier tidbits — Clinton himself wasn’t interview by PBS — the film’s fairly somber tone (far from the more celebratory profiles that have come to dominate his post-presidency) is set by both a gloomy musical score and a narrator who serves as a blunt assessor throughout all four hours, be it discussing how Clinton “recklessly pursued” Lewinsky or with such lines as:

    “Millions had responded to his campaign message of change, but millions of others feared where the country was heading and didn’t trust their inexperienced new president to lead them through uncertain times.”

    And: “If they had won the presidency, the Clintons had yet to win over the country. And in this moment of triumph, few could imagine the turmoil that lay ahead.”

    And: “With Gingrich in the spotlight, Clinton seemed increasingly peripheral.”

    And: “For two years, Clinton had stumbled through a series of foreign policy mishaps.”

    The narrator concludes the film with, “In the end, he left much as he had come, a man loved by his friends and loathed by his enemies; a politician who had achieved a great deal yet left behind a curious sense of unfulfilled promise.”

    An interview with former-aide-turned-Clinton-enemy Dick Morris is featured prominently throughout the film but avoids much of the harsher rhetoric that he typically employs nowadays when discussing the Clintons. Others making appearances include Samuel Berger, Sidney Blumenthal, James Carville, Gen. Wesley Clark, Richard Clarke, former Sen. Tom Daschle, David Gergen, Lucianne Goldberg, Stanley Greenberg, Leon Panetta, Mark Penn, John Podesta, Robert Rubin, Gail Sheehy, Ken Starr, Jeffrey Toobin, Betsey Wright, POLITICO’s John Harris, Harold Ickes, Michael Isikoff, Rep. Peter King, former Sen. Trent Lott, David Maraniss, Mike McCurry, Dee Dee Myers and Lawrence O’Donnell.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71382.html
     
  4. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    It is now 2015 and Hillary is the front runner. In my opinion, she will be nominated for President and I hope she wins.
     

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