Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)

It's one of the things that provoked my interest, people being even scared to discuss it. I mean if somebody came up with a valid point they just got called a name. I said to myself if they are so positive why be defensive? Besides if there was anything to find out wouldn't they want to? Why argue about it? I swear it's like you are attacking their Uncle Fred or something...

 

Just still not understanding flounder...why wouldn't everyone want to know???!! Wouldn't it be better to say..."I'll wait until it is proven...but, I would like to know myself" whether you are a raging liberal or not!

 

I agree, it seems from the people that are fighting it they are taking it personal, like Obama is their Uncle Fred...LOL They keep blaming race [what else is new], I just do not understand. Then they play dumb and say,,''Well why was not McCain questioned'',,,he was, and did what they asked, however he is not the President, is he?

I think it is obvious there is some embarrassing things in his past, everything is locked up,,everything. He has spent a fortune to block this and anything that might expose information,,why? They do not want to see anything released,,,Nada! It's very possible those records in those schools he attended hold the answers. It's going to be worse if this stuff is exposed after he leaves office, and someday they will be,,,it only takes a bribe.

I wonder what will happen with Arizona and those other states.

 

I don't know if you really read the last part -- especially where you specifically mention U.S. Social Security Death Index as a source. That would mean that the SSA knew this man died in 1981. I think you could stand a bit more fact checking.

 

So all the information contained on his original COB has been released? ALL of it?

No and you know it, your statement that all his vital information has been released is fallacious.

 

If it shows he was born here it is of not matter to his citizenship.

 

Where do you get the idea I would?

 

Let me make something blindingly clear:

I am no fan of Obama. So accusations that our questioning of the allegations may point to some kind of blind devotion are spurious and essentially an attempt to argue the person rather than the facts.

I am STILL waiting for someone on the birther side to address my post about what I personally found in the SSDI. I am STILL waiting for someone from the birther side to present actual evidence linking Obama's alleged SSN to Jean Paul Ludwig.

This is not about my opinion of Obama. It is about my opinion of your claim. Either support it or withdraw it. No more shenanigans. Put up or shut up.

 

The supreme law of the land (aside from the democrat exemption). If the SS story is true (as it appears) then he did not have the basic requirements to serve as president.

You can believe anything you want about the fellow...heck, I'd bet you actually think he is competent!

 

"If the SS story is true..."

Present evidence or get out. Dead serious. I think we all understand the implications if the story is true. I think we likewise understand what it means if the story is false.

Speculation is pointless. I want the hard evidence. No more crap.

 

The issue was about perjury, witness tampering, obstruction, and sexual harassment...the left used the dem exemption to those laws to turn it into a simple minded slogan his supporters could handle ...'it was all about sex', a version of which you regurgitated above.

 

His SS number was issued in conn and it did produce his selective service record, at least months ago. As the left will use some version of the democrat exemption regardless of the evidence, the issue is really moot.

It does not matter...one could have one of those old post war news reals of his parents carrying his infant self off a ship or plane arriving in Hawaii and the left would still spin it all with some new lame simple slogan minded slogan like 'It is all about geography' and demand we all move on.

If legal residency laws did not apply to Hilary's senate run, Rahm's Chicago run, if basic laws covering eligibility to run did not apply when Senator Lautenburg replaced Torricelli, if actual on tape perjury did not apply with Clinton, why does anyone thing something as silly as the law will apply to Obama?

The Democrat exemption will apply

 

No, the issue is not moot. You're not talking to a Democrat.

I have seen no evidence that the number in question is tied to Jean Paul Ludwig, as has been asserted. I am STILL waiting for someone to present it instead of trying to deflect with other pointless distractions.

It does matter. You aren't talking to a leftist. You're just responding to my post as an excuse to go on a rant that really has nothing to with what I said, nor with the matter at hand.

If you have evidence supporting the claim, then post it. If you don't, then don't waste our time.

More of the same.

Post the evidence or shut the hell up. It really is that simple.

 

LMFAO!!! I think Barry is THROUGH!!!!

 

I believe the term you're looking for is "Uncle Tom"...but seriously even if that SS # did not belong to another, how did Obama get a CT. SS# while he was in Hawaii???

None of this makes any sense.

 

We've been hearing that for at least 2 years now. I'm sure that THIS time, you've REALLY got him backed into a corner...yep, THIS is the one. It's not like all those other times you had him trapped. Lol...



(*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiots...

 

...because newspapers never make mistakes?

Would being born in Kenya automatically make him not a citizen of the United States?

 

"A nine-digit Social Security number is composed of three parts: the area number, the group number, and the serial number.

The Area Number: The first three digits in a Social Security number comprise the area number. Before 1972, this number identified the state in which the applicant's original Social Security card was issued. Since 1972, all Social Security numbers have been assigned and issued from one office in Baltimore, and the area number identifies the mailing address zip code of the applicant. An applicant's mailing address, either before or after 1972 may not be the same as the residence. The area number is merely an indicator that an applicant resided in or used an address in a particular state at the time the Social Security card was originally issued."

I will grant you that IF Obama has an SSN that begins with the area number for Connecticut, this raises questions. Birthers assume the answer is something sinister. I'm not prepared to assume anything either way.

I am prepared, however, to accept evidence for the claims made.

STILL waiting for someone on the birther side to address my post about the numbers assigned to Jean Paul Ludwig.

If no hard evidence is forthcoming, then I think it's fair to classify this thread as a birther circle-jerk.

 

I have asked Dutch and Flounder to provide actual evidence for their claims.

I made it simple- show me a source that shows President Obama's SS# is XXX and show me a reliable source showing that Ludwig's SS# is also XXX.

So far they have either not replied or danced around it.

If you think that is an attack, then frankly, I don't think any discussion is possible.

 

So you agree that releasing his birth certificate wouldn't change Apuzzo's SS# claims nor stop anything about this thread except your demand for the original birth certificate on file in Hawaii?

 

As are we all.

The conservatives have circled around, attacking those of us who have had the temerity to actually ask for something besides a Birther opinion piece as 'evidence' of the claim.

And the claim is serious. Serious claims demand serious evidence.

I will point out again that none of the parties claiming this are willing to go to the FBI or SSA with their claims.

Riddle me this- they claim they have uncovered the biggest political crime of the century- Apuzzo has mentioned this crime several times- but limit their actions about this crime to posting it here on the blogs. Why haven't they reported it?

I will tell you- if I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house, I would call the police, not blog about it. If I had uncovered evidence that Bush had directly contributed to the illegal outing of Valerie Plaine I would have reported it to the FBI rather than posting here.

The only rational explanation is that Birthers know they have no evidence.

 

competency aside, there is absolutely no evidence that he is using a fraudulent SS#. As another poster has pointed out, and birthers have failed to address, the SS# that birther claim is obama's and belongs to Jean Ludwig, does not actually belong to him.

 

Jeff..........When did I say I knew anything about this,,I dont, I am learning just like you...

 

But but...why does he have one from Connecticut? How did that happen? or are you saying they are wrong about that too?