Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Kokomojojo, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I comprehend just fine you have no clue what an agnostic is, but feel free to continue blathering on to prove the point.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    what you said is a matter of record, you cant falsify your way out of it. LOL

    :roll:
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    its acceptance or denial of God(s), no one cares what you believe.
     
  4. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except of course it means belief in a god (theist) or lack of belief in a god (atheist)
     
    William Rea likes this.
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    but you refuse to deny the existence of God(s) so you are a theist.
     
  6. rahl

    rahl Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    62,508
    Likes Received:
    7,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you think repeating this lie makes you look any less silly? Lol

    Atheism means lack of belief in a god or gods.
     
    William Rea and RiaRaeb like this.
  7. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope, read the sentence, but you have been dodging ever since the paucity of your argument was shown again. I see you have reverted to smileys, a sure sign you are in trouble. You are avoiding the argument and trying to focus on anything other than the facts.
    1. People who others claim to be gods exist or have existed.
    2. To deny they exist is illogical.
    3. Unless gods are specifically defined the concept is meaningless.
    4. Even when faced with the undoubted existence of what some call a god, you claim to not have the knowledge of whether they exist!


    I am an atheist, I lack belief in gods.
     
    William Rea likes this.
  8. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I do, yet again you prove yourself to be a falsifier, making claims you cannot possibly know.
     
  9. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How can you claim an agnostic does not have the knowledge of whether gods do or do not exist, when clearly a person others claim is a god exists. You can only claim he is not a god, his existence is beyond doubt, the knowledge is freely available.
     
  10. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    3,964
    Likes Received:
    1,743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No. I am an atheist. No need to claim that which is true.
    Yes, I have. However, I do not claim theism is true. Having been a Christian for 29 years before becoming an atheist, I'm still more comfortable at church picnics than I am at atheist bars. I find atheists to be smug, arrogant, condescending sh*theads I'm embarrassed to be associated with. They have an ironic "holier-than-thou" attitude towards theists that is unwarranted and untrue. Atheists are not smarter, wiser, more logical, or more scientific than theists, and in general have nothing to go on but their own doubt about theistic claims. But doubt is not proof. So atheists have no more claim on the truth than theists do.
    Translation, please. I haven't seen any atheist yet offer proof that God doesn't exist. I actually have a proof, that I wrote myself. But no one else seems to have any.
    I have said nothing that is false. I have made no claims.
     
  11. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You still have not explained how a lying brit is any different to a lying jew? Perhaps it is because you realise that the idea of PP being a god is patently absurd, and not worth you forming an opinion on, or specifically you lack the belief that PP is a god!

    By the way, how can you claim he lied? You are agnostic, you do not know if PP is a god or lied.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2018
  12. William Rea

    William Rea Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    604
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not buying it.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    that wasnt a statement it was a question. It does not change the fact you falsified what I said and it does not change the fact that you are terrified to admit you do not believe in God despite calling yourself an atheist, only theists would fear denying God(s).
     
  14. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again for a someone who claims that they are logical you appear to be unable to use it. You have not stated facts, you have offered opinion. Learn the difference.

    You have shown you are at the least an atheist, but you cannot be agnostic, you stated a lying brit, you denied the divinity of Prince Phillip. Welcome fellow atheist!
     
  15. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I know exactly what an agnostic is. One who lacks the fortitude to commit one way or the other.

    Continue with your denial as it is evidence that my definition clearly applies to you.
     
  16. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    28,370
    Likes Received:
    9,297
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Lacking belief is just that....it is NOT believing as in not believing. Saying I believe I don't believe is not only redundant it is stupid. Does the theist Believe that they Believe so they believe in believing?
     
  17. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113

    You continue your denial in the face of over whelming evidence to the contrary.

    That you have made your own definition which you claim to be true, but offer no evidence to support it. That is called fantasy as are all of your denials.

    As you say, proof is proof, and you have none. Just made up false claims that you insist are facts, which they are not.
     
  18. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What are you continually on?

    Atheists consistently state that there is no god but you just can't seem to understand that, claiming that we are saying something else.

    As for falsifying, that is the only arrow in your quiver and perfectly describes what you do in every post.
     
  19. William Rea

    William Rea Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2016
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    604
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm not going to judge agnosticism on the basis of individuals who clearly have no idea. In fact, the vast majority of genuine agnostics that I have ever encountered have been very considered and rational.
     
    RiaRaeb likes this.
  20. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You do realize you are making claims in every post. False claims at that.

    You appear to be a closet theist but afraid to admit it even though it is obvious with you every post. Sad.
     
  21. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Would not an atheist bar be illegal in most western countries? Are you making it up about atheist bars?

    So you have proved one god does not exist, what about the thousand of others?
    Where are these atheists bars?
     
  22. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again you dont know the difference between a question and a statement, just because you got nailed by point out the existence of a god that no atheists would deny that existence and claiming to be an atheist at the same time. I am sure people are laughing their asses off over that one. Some brilliant doublethink cognitive dissonance! LOL
    You dont know anything of the sort, standing on a soapbox ranting bs claims that you cant support is not an argument, its bullshit.
    Nice circular reasoning! Round we go!
    More pointless ranting and failure to argue the issues.
    Yes atheists do, lackers dont. Try comprehending what the thread is about.
    Lucky you have me in the thread since I am an agnostic and I can tell you what an agnostic is, unless you want to tell me what to believe?

    Maybe you can tell us why your fellow lacker atheists claim one god exists, care to sort that out for those of us who think that is insanity?

    You must agree that this god exists:

    For the 7th time:

    How many have the balls to stand up and deny G/god(s) exists?

    Dont be a lacker! Stand proud by your faith!
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2018
  23. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    God doesn't exist, which when you stop y our BS protestations you know. You just get butt hurt when you are called on your BS which happens all the time, every time you post. The only lacker in this thread is you, I will leave it to the other readers to decide what you lack other than the ability to tell the truth.
     
  24. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,740
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No way I am happy to see you finally joined the believers! Congratulations! Oh btw I cant get butt hurt when your shooting blanks. If you can come up with an actual argument at some point I will be happy to educate you since the lacker loonacy has been proven long ago in this thread.
     
  25. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some brit lied to a bunch of backwards natives, that is a statement!. How do you know he lied koko? Because it is such an absurd idea that PP could be a god you dismissed it out of hand, with your usual mockery! However you have over reached yourself, discounting PP in that way proves you are no agnostic fool!

    For the seventh time you attempt to falsify my statement thinking only the words you have highlighted should be read, time and time again in this thread you have attempted to use this dishonest technique to falsify others statements, time and time again you have been called out on it by various posters. Your fraud, your inability to defend any position without petty insults, your self aggrandisement, your inability to actually engage in the discussion, prove what you are little koko!

     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2018

Share This Page