Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

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  1. William Rea

    William Rea Well-Known Member

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    No, they don't, agnostics simply hold a position regarding knowledge, not belief. You just don't have the capacity to understand that I could be a theistic agnostic or an atheist agnostic, they are claims about different things. When I say I lack belief I am making no claims whatsoever about the possibilities of knowledge but, I expect you'll just carry on posting the same nonsense you have done so far regardless of how much you get owned.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People realizing the futility of debating an individual who lacks the ability to understand concepts and data, does not equate to them abandoning the situation because you won. Quite simply put, you fit the mold of the idiot troll and are dismissed as such quickly by those who spend the wasted time finding out. Your persona is not unique or worthy of more than momentary entertainment.
     
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    That's why I'm an Apatheist over an Atheist, the case needs to be considered an Atheist must rule out ALL deities including ones not per se more widely accepted ones if one worships for example nature as a force that is a religion making nature the deity as well as ancestor worship which is common enough to be on the list. My case is the side that needs to do the revealing are the deities as to their existance not humans since the deities have supposedly the harder to define reality therefore they can come down to our level anytime they wish this according to what believers teach. If they refuse then they clearly don't care what humans believe or not. Or they aren't there. And then the next issue is worship or other factors which would be again based on what humans get from doing so from these deities.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

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    But attacking me is not how you come out on top of a debate, especially when your data sheet looks like this:

    "I lack belief" because "I lack belief" and that is proven because "I lack belief",

    If at first you dont succeed lack lack lack belief again.

    Atheists have posted no 'data' what so ever, clearly that is a product of a wild imagination not reality.

    Trolling is when atheists come out here and try to sell their lack of belief religion and cant even counter one philosophical argument. I am sure thats a great way to get many converts!
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    There we go rockin! Eternal rerun replay, thats all you have, I told you I will not respond to anything to do with the holocaust in my ****ing thread, please stop trying to derail MY ****ing thread and make your thread if you want to talk about the holocaust.

    What you didnt grasp it the first 3 times? I said I will argue his points so please refrain from asking questions already answered several times.
     
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  6. William Rea

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    It's about 'lack of belief' the crux of the title and, I am asking you if you 'lack belief' in the Holocaust or just don't believe it happened? You could just say that you believe that it happened? You want to make me commit to an answer that I don't hold as a position, I'm seeing if you understand why? This is pertinent to your claim that I cannot justify 'lacking belief'.
     
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  7. Arjay51

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    Who is the "everyone" you refer to ? Are the voices back?
     
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  8. Kokomojojo

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    But you are making claims, the whole atheist philosophy is centered around the belief there are no deities.

    The statement I lack belief in the existence of deities IS a claim. Atheists sound delusional when they try to claim its not a claim as theists likewise lack belief in the nonexistence of deities. Its the logical compliment and logic doesnt care what your politics is.

    Lacking belief in the nonexistence of deities, is logically identical or ⇔ to I belief in deities and
    I lack belief in the existence of deities is logically identical or ⇔ to I believe no deities exist.


    Clearly atheists are peddling a double standard based in delusion since is a hypocrisy.
     
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  9. Kokomojojo

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    Please try to read for comprehension, obviously everyone who reads this thread, seriously this is not that difficult, all you people have is nonarguments pretending to be arguments.
     
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    Atheists are proving beyond a shadow of doubt there is no foundation to their imaginative theories,

    I lack belief that you are capable of rationally arguing your point, which is the material logical equivalent to I believe you have nothing, that you are not capable of rationally arguing your point and you are proving me correct.

    Both mean the same identical thing.
     
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    No matter how many times you repeat this lie, it will never become true. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. That’s isn’t a claim. That isn’t a religion.
     
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  12. Kokomojojo

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    But thats more complicated and has 3 ingredients, we need to get past this single one before we move on to higher intellectual exploration of the remaining atheist misconceptions.
     
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    It isn’t complicated at all. You keep lying about what atheism is, and I keep correcting you.
     
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    I have no need to wade through that crap and repeat the same stuff we have been repeating on this threads every time, like burden of proof is ALWAYS on the person making the assertion and not believing in a god is not an assertion, it is the default position. If you can't see that after all this time, it makes me question your motives.
     
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    She be like, boo boo, believe what I say you do so that I can have an argument. Pwease.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    I do not understand why you think you know more about Atheism than we Atheists do. Nor do I get why you continue expressing your opinions when Atheists explain they are incorrect. One can only assume you are forwarding an agenda.....Please tell us what it is?
     
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    And your proof of "everyone"? Still those voices in your head?
     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    For atheists to claim I am incorrect at a minimum they must show a distinction by contradicting what I said:
    "Both mean the same identical thing."

    Heads up people as we can all see William skipped over responding to this

    None of the atheists are capable of responding to this

    and thats right out of the logic class 101 hand book kids.



    I guess my lack of belief that you could counter the proposition was correct.

    You dont have to be a fart to know that a fart is gas and they invariably stink.

    No, constantly repeating I lack belief so I am right is not an explanation, its denial and proposition dodging because you cant counter the argument. Proving how screwed up atheist philosophical theory is, I mean its a mess, not an occasional goof but a disaster..
     
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    wth is that supposed to mean? Now you cant even comprehend the meaning of everyone who reads this thread? Why are you even here if thats the best you can do? If I were an atheist I'd be pissed if someone got on the board and made over the top statements proving atheists are lacking in a lot more than just belief.
     
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    Please show where the poster has conceded ANYtHING?
     
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    No it is quite clear that the poster is asking for a qualification of what you are debating in your own words as per the rules of the forum. Do not like the forum rules, do not partake. Quotes and videos should be used to "Support".
     
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    Please see the OP, WR said he wont acknowledge or respond to the supporting arguments I posted, maybe you should inform him of the rules, yes its clear to me anyway :sleepy:

    you should consider helping your your lack believe brethern come up with a counter argument.......if you can....

    you need to use logical proofs as I did to to counter there is no material. Mine showed they are the same, yours need to show they are not. Anything?
     
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  25. William Rea

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    I'll go find Matt Slick if I want to discuss it with him. Bring your own crap to the table and stop this passive aggressive conspiracy theory nonsense of pretending to be just asking questions. It's old and you either have a point or you don't. If you do, make it.

    Do you lack belief in the Holocaust?
     
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