Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None, he started a thread on it and got so slaughtered he ran away!
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a lot of verbiage to say you 'don't believe in the easter bunny'.
     
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    You must be a liberal. You continue to project your own faults on others. Typical.
     
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    Yet you cite none which brings your claim into doubt.
     
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    117 pages now, and atheism still means.........lack of belief in a god or gods.
     
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    I am not a God hating lefty.
     
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    Already cited.
     
  9. Arjay51

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    And there you go again.
     
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    Then it should be simple for you to restate some of these fairy tales. But you refuse to so doubt grows with your every post.
     
  11. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    Sure, you could say the jar is never opened and checked, that doesn't change the argument I'm trying to make. The argument I'm making is one about the concept of beliefs. It doesn't really matter what the individual beliefs look like.
     
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    Truth telling? Yeah, I do that alot.
     
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    Even more simple for you to look it up.
     
  14. doombug

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    It does in this instance. To use this analogy means there are only two choices: odd or even. One is correct while the other is not. This type of polarized logic forces one to choose one. In the case of whether God exists or not isn’t as simple. For example, I believe it is possible to believe in evolution and God. Both are possible.
     
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    I can't help but think that you're misunderstanding the point I'm trying to make. It's not a perfect analogy to whether god exists. If I wanted to make points like that, I would simply talk about the existence of god, no analogy would be necessary.

    The example is specifically set up to answer whether an agnostic can be said to lack belief in the statements about which he is an agnostic. For instance, an agnostic says "I don't know" about the number of balls in the jar, does that count as not believing in either statement, or is it some kind of flux state in which acknowledging the possibility of "evens" means accepting it as true in some way?

    Any other points, like how this relates to other claims like evolution, is not discussed in this example. If you want to discuss that, use another example.
     
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    I do consider the agnostic position as honest. In reality one can be confused about the existence of God. To claim God does not exist is simply not honest. Answering the question is not as simple as opening a jar and counting gumballs.
     
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    When are you going to start?
     
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    Not really since you claim, without proof, to have posted these "reasons and proofs" prior to now but cannot seem to find them to repost. A cowards attempt to cover his fallacies.
     
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    Your insult proves you lost the debate.
     
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    My "insult" merely points out the lack of fortitude of the quoted poster. If it is so easy to prove himself correct, why hasn't he?

    Oh yes, he can't.

    And youj believing his statement proves a certain lack in your thinking.
     
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    Maybe so, but that has nothing to do with the argument I'm making here.
     
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    I'm curious as to why you think claiming God doesn't exist isn't honest. I think the "lack belief" atheists aren't being honest because they really do believe God does not exist, but someone who makes the claim (and believes it) is being honest. Some televangelists are less honest than atheists.
     
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    You are dishonest because despite being told for over 100 pages what we do or do not believe you still think you know best what others think, that kind of arrogance is extraordinary!
     
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    I lack belief, I am an atheist.
     
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    118 pages and atheism still means..............lack of belief in a god or gods.

    Why is this thread still open?
     
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