RFKjr on Cuomo backpedals statement 'Biden bigger threat than Trump"

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    Okay, 'backpedal' is my spin, to be fair, I could say 'he qualified his statement', but given the the boldness of it, I'm saying he is backpedaling.

    So, did CNN take RFKjr's statement out of context, or at least didn't give RFK the opportunity to qualify his statement?

    But, did he actually walk it back? Sort of. I'll let you be the judge.

    This is the CUOMO SHOW on Newsnation (link to the video, below, NN is a centrist news org, or they try to be)

    Clip from CNN displayed:

    CNN: "People talk about the threat to democracy that Trump poses, do you really think that that is, is as equal to Biden?"

    RFKjr: "I can make the argument that president Biden is much worse of a threat to democracy. And the reason for that is that President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censure political speech, to censure his political opponent. The greatest threat to democracy is not somebody who question election returns, but a president of the United States that would use the power of his office to force the social media companies, facebook, Instagram, Twitter, to open a portal and give access to that portal to the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the SISA, the NIH, to censure his political critics"

    CUT TO CUOMO: So, the headlines read, " 'Bobby Kennedy Thinks Biden bigger threat than Trump', so, is that fair? Robert F Kennedy his here to make the case for himself. [Cuomo to RFKjr] I told you to be careful what you wish for"

    RFKjr: (smiling)

    CUOMO (to RFKjr) Here's one thing we know for sure.The Biden administration is not giving you security today, not ever after that interview. Do you want people to believe that you think that President Biden has done more objectionable things, vis a vis our democracy than former President Trump did in the aftermath of the last election?

    RFKjr: As you heard, Chris, what I said was that I can make this argument, I didn't say definitively whether I believed one or the other was more dangerous to democracy. I did say that I don't believe that either of them are going to destroy democracy. Both sides are telling us that the other guy is the end of the republic.

    This is is a case of failure of RFKjr to articulate, precisely, what his meaning is. RFKjr should have used 'could' in place of 'can' and should have gone even further than that qualifying it as he did on the Cuomo show. But, alas, it's too late now, no one is giving the Cuomo show much attention.

    However, I agree with RFKjr what neither will actually destroy Democracy (only because the military swears an oath to the constitution, not the president), however, Trump, given his authoritarian nature, can do a lot of damage that would take years to repair, far more than Biden ever did. And, I tried to confirm whether or not what RFK said was, indeed, accurate, and I believe he isn't.

    Here is the full interview:



    Here is COPILOT AI debunking RFKjr's statement:

    This also brings up the issue of 'government censuring of critics'. Is this true?

    There was a 60 minute segment about this 'censuring by the fed gov' and, as it turns out, it is a third party, a private organization, or rather, a university sponsored misinformation research group, that tracks misinformation, disinformation, and makes suggestions to the social media, it is up to them to take their suggestions or not. They report that the social media companies only take their suggestions about 1/4 or 1/3 of the time (I forgot what she said in the video), noting that social media companies are the ones who have the 'first amendment right' thus they have the right to conform user content to their TOS. The segment revealed that the allegations against the government were false. No one is forcing, compelling, the social media companies to act in a certain way. I think what is happening is that critics are assuming that this is the government doing this, but it's not, it's this misinformation research group.

    Interestingly enough, they debunked Jim Jordan's accusation that the Biden administration is trying to censure conservatives, going out of their way to do it. The group found that it was true that conservatives, i.e.,, republicans and the right were far more likely to post misleading or false information on social media than the Democrats/liberals, or the left were.

    So, that, being true, debunks Jordan's (and the right's) allegation that 'democrats are targeting republicans'. I mean, we can't help it if that is what the right does a lot. It's similar to how they argue that blacks are disproportionally committing the most crimes which is why they are disproportionately incarcerated compared to their actual percentage of the population. So, where the right tries to debunk the left's claim about the criminal justice system is targeting blacks more than whites, you guys on the right can't have it both ways. If you believe that about blacks, you also have to believe it about Republicans committing the most errors on social media as the real reason, not Dems targeting Repubs. Be consistent, in other words.

    The full story is here:



    So, this thread has two points, the one about RFKjr and the one about social media, since it is related to both.

    Let's discuss.

    Caveat, snarky one liners will be ignored and I implore that you ignore this thread if you suffer from a short attention span, or can't comprehend text beyond 25 words or so.

    Also, some of you are going to bring up the old beaten dead horse issue about the 'FBI censuring twitter'. Copilot replies:



     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2024

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