Riot police descend on Montana capitol as left-wing protesters shut down proceedings: reports

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen what they are doing to Austin? It's insane. Folks leaving because of the loss of jobs, opportunities flee elsewhere. Look at the demographic changes to Montana, and it's pretty clear to see where this support you clapped about came from. Why try to dissemble about into?

    Nice to know you have such an elitist view of the world though.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    If it's elitist to want to live by certain standards, which now includes basic freedoms, and safety from lunatic politicians, then elitist be I....
     
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    Will Joe Biden be inviting them to the White House?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This recent insurrection is by far one of the most HEINOUS ACTS COMMITTED ON U.S. SOIL, period!
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    Total MISCHARACTERIZATON and a Hilarious Example of "Hey, Lookie Over Here!" Whataboutism...:bored:
    Not in ALL cases...
    BUT, the term "insurrection" undeniably applied to the DC Capitol Violence on 1/6/21...
     
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  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup just as it applies to THIS and the TRANSurrection that occurred not too long ago. I knew it wouldn't be too long before the left did something similar. They are the ones that mastered the art of violent protest after all
     
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    LOL, the irony. No where could it be said that you understand what basic freedom actually is.... Can we assume you feel loved and safe in Chicago?
     
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    Never been there. You?

    One generally only knows what basic freedoms are when you sadly watch others lose them....
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well I did REPORT the post, and included the article's actual title, so one cannot say that the mods are unaware of it. I'd say give it a little more time-- they may be short staffed. After that, we can always post our impressions of unequal application of the rules, under the "Feedback & Questions" forum.


    Your other comment involves a two-stage answer. That is, at one level, those who post threads, seemingly just to promote one Party over the other-- and there are both Dems and Repubs here, who make a partisan habit of this-- post about transsexuals for that clear reason: because it is obviously a Right wing talking point, what it considers as a wedge issue. It is, of course, sad that Republicans do not have opinions on topics, more relevant to the jobs for which they were elected (at least, none they consider meriting their advocacy). Still worse, is that this is what the GOP has come to, that it sees its best strategy for maintaining its power, to sow social discord & hatred, through our society-- and has embraced the tactic, as being worth the cost. While a bit of this focus on "culture" issues, is nothing new, the demonization around them has definitely intensified, in recent years.

    The second stage in answering your question, is why the Right saw this particular issue as a prime hill, from which to wage their culture war.This a more complex, and speculative, undertaking. One basic truth though, is that conservatives tend to find change, more unpleasant than other people do. They also, in order to see in more fixed, and easily defined terms, both reality as it exists, and their idealized forms of it, tend to conceive of things, I think, in more stereotypical ways. This seems a given necessity, in order to be able to view things in the more starkly black & white manner, with which they are more comfortable. So, when it comes to something so basic to society's fabric as gender roles, and the conceptions of maleness, equated with masculinity, versus female femininity, it is predictable that this would be a sensitive place, for any whose lives are structured around very rigid preconceptions of life.
     
  11. Pred

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    Its not about being slow to change. Its about accepting change that is scientifically just WRONG. If the govt just started telling everyone that the sky is red. That blue color you're seeing is not really blue. Its red. How willing are you to change everything you know that is true and factual, to just "accept" that blue isn't really blue. A man in a dress is NOT a woman. A man who cuts his penis off, is NOT a woman. What's MOST disturbing is how much of our leadership is WILLING to ignore science and openly claim something that they KNOW is false, they KNOW is untrue and they KNOW is WRONG, and say sure, its OK. There was a fantastic Star Trek episode where Picard was captured and being told to accept how many lights he was told to see vs how many lights there actually were. It was a great example of indoctrination and torture. How far did you have to be tortured to break and believe what isn't true??

    This isn't like when we discovered the Earth is round and people needed to be convinced that it isn't flat. This is the OPPOSITE. Certain people, who want to normalize mental illness, want everyone who already knows the Earth is round, has seen why its round and read the scientific proof its round, to suddenly accept that's its really flat. We were wrong all along. EVERYONE is WRONG!!! EVERYTHING we KNOW is WRONG!! And why are we all wrong? Because a tiny segment of the population who really only exist in 1st world nations, see and believe something the rest of us don't. Because .3% of the population think they were born in the wrong body, we all have to believe what they believe? NO!!! That tiny segment have a mental illness and they are free to believe whatever they want. But they shouldn't force all of us to accept their delusion. That delusion is theirs alone and no amount of surgery and drugs will change that. They may eventually look like the opposite sex, but they can not actually be the opposite sex. And I might even call them according to what they want to be called. But I still know what they really are.

    A transgender is absolutely no different than any person thinking they're a cat. And they might think they're a cat, which is their problem. The BIGGER problem starts when 3rd party perception has to change all around them to AFFIRM what they are. NOPE!!! Sorry!!! Nope!!!

    What is going on right now is THIS below. The MSM is just using less direct methods besides shocking us. Its far more insidious. He believed he was starting to see what wasn't there. ^%*()@ up!!
     
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    Your arguments, in themselves-- take note-- do not explain, why this should be a political issue, and certainly not one, that should be raised to such a prominent place in national politics, as the Right has done with this. Nor does your explanation that trans people are self-deluded, explain the extreme vitriol, coming from conservatives, over the issue. Can you appreciate that?
     
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    OK... that's a lot of words that lead nowhere..

    The only quesiton I can follow up with is - WHY DO YOU CARE?
     
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    When a public official grandstands telling their peers that they'll have blood on their hands if they don't do this, then they are inciting. IOW. you do as Zooey says or you'll cause a violent uprising to happen where people will spill blood.
    There's no other way to sugar-coat this. Besides all this, I thought the libs hated this sort of thing.

    As a result "the House Republicans refused to allow Rep. Zooey Zephyr to speak after she said they would have blood on their hands if they passed a bill to restrict transition-related care." :applause:

    Trans Montana representative silenced by GOP colleagues for three days (nbcnews.com)
     
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    Clearly, it's the left's rules for thee but not for me at play. Always a double standard. I wonder if they ever listen to themselves.
     
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    Nonsense.
     
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    The 12th of Never.
     
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    How many officers were injured?
     
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    And that is the Republican game plan: call every protest or demonstration, by the Left, an "insurrection"-- IOW, try to dilute the true meaning of that word. It is debatable, as to whether that word is wisely applied to January 6th (I generally call that event, an attack or assault, on our Capitol). But it is manifestly wrong, to equate any of the recent protests, with that 2021 attack, on Congress.
     
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    You act like they’re just minding their own business:) That they’re not effecting anyone else?

    When they demand to be called something or you can be fired from your job, that’s messed up.

    When they demand that your kids accept their delusion, that's messed up.

    When they demand to perform in front of children that’s messed up.

    When they demand to use the same bathroom as your daughter, that’s messed up.

    When they demand to compete against women in sports, that’s messed up.

    When businesses force YOU to follow DE&I or get fired, that’s messed up.

    It’s how their demands have trickled into every fabric of society. Their dysphoria has to be normalized and Democrats are allowing it to happen. That’s the source.

    You know why no one cared about Trans people until recently? Because society treated it as a sickness or a fetish which it is. And besides, the Trans community did their thing without demanding to be a part of normal society. They knew they were different. That all changed recently and the delusion has spread into the youth at an unnatural rate. It’s scientifically impossible for this many people to all develop gender dysphoria in such a short time span and only in 1st world nations, even in small pockets of the country. Friend groups ALL suddenly identifying as LGBT without any prior signs. Just pot of the blue. It’s manufactured. It’s not normal. It’s grooming. It’s a social contagion spread through social media. Almost like it’s planned;)
     
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    Its hard for me to take that stance when super violent riots with actual buildings being burned downed and people getting curb stomped on the street and it was being called "mostly peaceful". Sorry dude, I learned this from the left. Do I think this recent event was Jan 6 level, no? but I also don't think Jan 6 was most BLM riots level, so there you have it!
     
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    Well I appreciate your honesty.
     
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    A question no one on the left asked during the summer of love. Help me out, how many cops were ambushed and murdered by blm?
     
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    Not sure anyone calls it the summer of love. How many officers were injured on the day tourists got lost?
     

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