RNC resolution to ban paying Trump’s legal bills is ‘dead’

Trump has one of those!

 

Meaningless.

Trump is facing a successful President.

Right wing media will tell you that the public is lukewarm.

But what’ even more lukewarm is a criminal ex president, who fomented an insurrection, and whose grafting and grifting is now in overdrive.

Four more years of cofeve, disgrace and embarrassment does not appeal to most Americans.

 

LOL - No, he's facing an abject failure, which would explain why Biden's approval numbers are under water and the election is trending in Trump's favor:

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

 

The map does tell all.

And the Dixiecrat states may give Trump around 140 electoral votes.

 

This is just all so incredible. The gullability of the MAGA base is beyond imagination. Some of them probably have their checkbooks out as we speak.

 

It would seem that fighting lawfare is now a necessary part of campaigning, given the party in power can get away with trying to drown the competition with the unlimited legal and financial power of the govt.

 

Only if they’re criminals

 

Accused criminals or convicted criminals? There's a difference.

 

Like it matters to you? Would convictions convince you that you were wrong? I didn’t think so.

 

This message is a copy/paste from 2020 and 2022.

 

Don't try to make yourself believe there is one.

Trump has criminally charged in 4 trials and it's a left-wing conspiracy.

Even if he's convicted, you'll vote for him.

 

My position is innocent until proven guilty. Is that 'wrong'?

But I get your point- it still depends on how open and transparent the trial is. If Trump were convicted in a closed trial in, say, New York County or San Francisco County, I would'nt have a lot of faith that the jurors were presented with all the facts and made a decision based solely upon the letter of the law.

...and if you don't think that's reasonable, suppose the trial were held instead in Roberts County, Texas, where Trump received 96% of the vote in 2020. Do you think a judge in that county, with no public oversite, would be impartial and 12 random people chosen in that county would be objective in evaluating a case against Trump, right before an election?

 

Sounds like you're trying to 'make yourself believe' that its OK to persecute Trump as a criminal without convicting him of the crime.

 

I'm not persecuting anyone.

It's all in your head.

I note that the American justice system has arrested Trump 4 times and who will undergo 4 criminal trials in 2024.

In addition, he has lost 3 civil suits in the last 6 months and owes over $600 million in punitive damages.

 

Oh, so you were opposed to removing Trump from ballots?

Removing Trump from the ballot for a crime he hasn't been convicted of is persecution.

None of which disqualifies him from being elected and serving as President.

 

Do you think the Republicans have reached rock bottom or you can go lower?

 

'Do you think you'll ever stop beating your wife' is the only more childish question you could've asked...

I was hoping to vote for RFK to take on the corporations and their regulatory capture over our institutions, but he sinned against the church of corporate pharmaceuticals and thus lost the support of The Party. Trump is the only candidate left who isn't interested in disarming his victims or edging us to WW3. So, ya, I could go WAY lower. I'd even vote for a communist as long they didnt want to disarm their victims or drop high explosive 'democracy' all over the world.

 

yet, the right still thinks Trump is a multibillionaire that needs their $$$

 

If you are not going to rely on the triar of fact ( judge or jury) to determine guilt, and replace them with yourself judging 'transparency' then in fact it does not matter what that triar of fact concludes, you will move that little 'transparency' goalpost whereever you feel most comfortable. Its innocent whether proven guilty or not and that is no better whatsoever.

There is nothing objective in your criteria, because you already built in your escape hatches.

 

suppose the trial were held instead in Roberts County, Texas, where Trump received 96% of the vote in 2020. Do you think a judge in that county, with no public oversite, would be impartial and 12 random people chosen in that county would be objective in evaluating a case against Trump, right before an election?

 

Good. Trump will keep all the money to himself leaving none to other candidates.

 

Actually I would prefer him to suffer the consequences directly and personally. Not receive handouts to cover for his conduct.

 

We can only hope that trump and maga are the low water mark in America’s rightwing movement.

 

TRaitor tRump has bankrupted everything he's touched ... why not the RNC.

The GOP has gone from the Grand Ole Party to the TOB, tRumps own Bank. TRaitor tRump being in charge of the RNC will only make the systemic corruption of the party more systemic. Anybody running for office as a republican will have to sell out to somebody because they won't be getting help from the home office. It and all its funding is his now.



MINE ... MINE ... MINE ...

 

Yes, I think a judge absolutely can run a trial consistent with the application of criminal procedure and statute. If he can't there is a lengthy court record, some of the most expensive legal talent, and a very in depth appeals process to ensure his mistakes get addressed. I think a jury picked through the normal voir dire process with competent counsel can apply jury instructions consistent with those same statutes. I Most judges are professionals, as are most officers of the court. Most people who choose to sit on a jury will try to do the job according to the rules. The odds are decidedly with Trump, not a prosecutor. Remember the real worry is a that one or two stubborn jurors who cannot vote to convict because of their politics leaving Trump with a not guilty or hung verdict, not finding 12 jurors who are all persuaded to follow their politics and vote an innocent man guilty. Its hard to convict someone of a crime with the odds stacked by a 12 - 0 jury system, lengthy due process protections, and a beyond a reasonable doubt quantum of proof. Its harder if they have wealth, and if they have a pool of allies sitting in the population to be that 1 or two jurors to be counted on.

You however, have provided yourself a series of excuses to come to the conclusions consistent with your preconceived perspective that something will be awry... something will smell funny... at least one or two judicial decisions have already probably tilted the scale, when you don't even believe the charges should have been leveled, the indictment sealed, and the case filed. You are one of the jurors, prosecutors has to sniff out and get excused if they are to even have a chance at a guilty verdict.