Romney Picks Ryan for Veep...Bye-Bye Socialism....

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I haven't studied Paul Ryan much.

    Is he the guy that submitted a detailed plan last year for reducing the national debt, and who the Dems say wants to throw grannie out of her wheelchair and off the cliff?
     
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    yes.. that's the guy..
     
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    Same guy, Sparky. Proposed cuts to Social Security and medicare.

    The Romney camp may have just lost any hope of gaining Florida.

    Regards
     
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    As opposed to Obama cutting Medicare by 500 billion?

    Ryan is a good pick, even Obama complimented him before he became the Campaigner in Chief.
     
  7. Libhater

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    Yeah, I was also torn between those two. You couldn't have two more opposite views for American then we'll have come November. Fiscal responsibility verse fiscal indebtedness. Not hard to make a choice there.
     
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    No argument from me Hoosier. I was only attempting to clarify who he was for Sparky.

    :thumbsup:
     
  9. Libhater

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    I love to look ahead as well, where given Ryan's age at 42, the consensus would be that he Ryan would run for and win the presidency in 2020 after 8 years of Romney. So that would mean 16 straight years of a Republican in the White House which wouldn't make the dem outlook for the future of their socialism look too promising.

    All is not lost for the lib media with this pick. Now they'll have two murderers running on the ticket in which to take shots at. Romney murdered that former employee's wife, and Ryan murdered that grandmother by wheeling her off the cliff. LMFAO!
     
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    The liberal New Yorker is complaining how little business experience Ryan has. Talk about an about turn from Obama!
     
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    It's rather strange that Republicans are more enamored with who could be the Vice President than who will be the President - in 2017.
     
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    Who have you been talking to? This is as strong a ticket as one wil ever see. Matching them up against the pathetic duo of obot/biden is rather humorous. Romney is going to surprise many people as being one of our stronger leaders.
     
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    Romney supports amending the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. And Ryan twice voted in support of the failed Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 and 2006.

    "Marriage is not simply a legal arrangement between individuals," he said in a statement after casting his vote. "The institution of marriage is an integral part of our civil society and its significance goes well beyond eligibility for benefits and similar considerations. Its future should not be left to a few overreaching judges or local officials to decide."

    Romney knows that prohibitions againg same-sex marriage violate the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution. He was governor of Massachusetts when the State Supreme Court reached that decision and Romney signed the executive order requiring the county clerks to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The very fact that Romney is calling for a new Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage is because he doesn't believe that ALL Americans should received Equal Protection Under the Law. He wants to Constitutionalize invidious discrimination based upon his religious beliefs related to marriage. That, my friends, is religious intolerance.

    In fact marriage is a legal arraingement between individuals. Marriage is a legal personal/financial partnership as that's how the federal laws on taxes, inheritance, bankruptcy, and government benefits treat it. When Ryan states, " its significance goes well beyond eligibility for benefits and similar considerations" he's addressing it's religious, not social, benefits.

    Like Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan is a religious bigot that doesn't believe that ALL Americans should receive equal protection under the law. He supports religious intolerance which violates both the 14th Amendment but also the 1st Amendment. He seeks legislation to impose religious beliefs on the American People in violation of the US Constitution.

    If Romney/Ryan are elected in November we can throw the US Constitutional protections of civil Rights out the window as their religious bigotry will not tolerate anyone that doesn't fit the Christian theocratic rule advocated the the Christian Right. It would represent the greatest threat to religious freedom in the United States since the adoption of the First Amendment.
     
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    All the more tears for Republicans to shed in November.
     
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    Not really. The Ryan pick will force the Obama campaign to have to actually turn to the issues to attack Ryan instead of Bain or tax returns. Something the Obama team has been avoiding.
     
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    All assumptions are based on Ryan not making any mistakes between now and November.

    Don't bank on it.
     
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    Not if Ryan is able to articulate what's really going on with ss and Medicare. Which he is one of the only guys who can.

    Watching the debates between Ryan and Biden will be like watching Albert Einstein debate Elmer Fudd. Looking forward to it!
     
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    ryan is the opposite of mistake prone.. and unlike biden, ryan has a lot to offer..
     
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    Seems like an admission that Romney cannot do it on his own then.
     
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    Romney at least can be seen as a centrist leaning Republican but Ryan is a nutcase but unlike Palin a properly aware nutcase.

    Lets see he opposed Obamacare fine and dandy but its built on Romneycare, who the Republicans thought was a good thing until it wasn't its going to make his support seem a bit out of place to me.

    He openly opposes unions, stable public utilities (Wisconsin Electric), social programs for the poor, teachers are on his hit list, he was up for a recall even if he won its shows enough issue with him helping take the state and he is threatening social security and medicare far more than Obama did (with a hospital voluntary surrender of $500 billion of increases in Medicare funding to get everyone covered by insurance).

    I think this choice just shot the campaign in the head and a moderate Republican maybe would have been a far better choice.

    And they can attack Ryan hard on how he ran his state and face it that was not good he is a hardline Autocrat and worse hates working people and the poor, thats how I see him he is the rabid dog of the Republicans that wants to hurt me.
     
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    Republicans don't want the White House. Romney picking Ryan is like McCain picking Palin. America is just not in to fascism.
     
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    A walking billboard for willfull ignorance.....

    It wasnt "Moderate Republicans" that brought about Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History......

    Ryan was one of the best choices Romney could of made......when your crying on Nov. 7.....you will understand.
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  23. harvardpit

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    Originally Posted by harvardpit
    ryan is the opposite of mistake prone.. and unlike biden, ryan has a lot to offer..

    seems like you wish i said something i didn't say..

    a comparison of ryan and biden has absolutely nothing to do with romney..
     
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    Ryan is a brilliant pick. He is very articulate and knows more about any of the subjects than anything the democrats have put on the line, including Obama. Ryan will help focus the debate on what is really important, the budget and the economy as opposed to Obama using personal attacks as his campaign plan.

    The democrats campaign plan for the economy and this countries future is attack Romney. The Romney campaign will actually be about the future of this country.

    No doubt the democrats will pull out the same lies they used before to attack Ryan and are excited about Romney's pick but Ryan will now have the stage. Can you imagine a debate with Ryan and Biden. The intellectual gulf will be so wide and so apparent that Biden would do better by not showing up. When Obama invited the republicans for a round table to make people think he was bipartisan, the only one in the room that was able to put Obama on the defensive was Ryan.

    Democrats, beware of what you wish for.
     
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    Whenever the election issues are so grossly oversimplified and misunderstood like this, it reminds me of how Sarah Palin was celebrated and then thoroughly rejected by America back in '08. Whoopee, Paul Ryan is a fiscal conservative! And next we'll learn why he'd make a terrible VP or President.
     

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