Ron Paul answers questions on recent segment of 'Face The Nation'.

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  1. Roelath

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    Where does he say that? Apparently you're still stuck on slandering his name in whatever way possible without the use of any evidence to prove it. Where is it JB!? Clearly this entire thread has been you being a windbag producing nothing conclusive of any sort.
     
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    Your History timeline started in the 1970s during the Iran Hostage Crisis... when it ended your timeline stopped again and then started at 9/11. You leave out the complete History and the reasons behind what some would say as defensive measures against Foreign Imperialists.

    Really now? I never knew Major Brands would ever try to associate themselves with Skinhead McGees BBQ by selling them their products. Face the facts that people of this Day and Age would be at odds with such an establishment while at the same time no Business/Corporation would ever have ties to them. It would be way too damaging to the face value of a Business to ever have Business with said group/business. Your conclusion is that since we have said Laws they themselves are infallible due to more or less because you love Government. You're nothing more than a man caught up in a Sports game calling the Blue Team losers while advocating the same policies as them when you cheer for the Reds.

    That is one of their reasons... Big deal? Clearly Israel is seen in the Middle East as Aggressive considering in their early days committed a lot of acts of Aggression towards their neighbors for the acquisition of land. But this point is moot.

    First it's about Saudi Arabia and being in their Holy Land (Which in their belief is desecrating their Holy Land) then you move on about Iraq/Kuwait ordeal. When that in of itself was due in large part because of financial problems in Iraq when they couldn't pay their debts. But why do I digress? Wasn't Saddam an US Funded/Armed Dictator against Iran that went rabid? Clearly our Foreign Policy so far is solid right?

    Who is a key player of the UN? Where is the UN located? Hmm... I wonder why they would have such a keen hatred for the US when Iraqi people are dieing due to the sanctions placed upon them. Also why did the US become the World Police? So far our record is extremely bad on the job for promoting long term stability and Freedom when we prop up Dictators across the Globe or fight land Wars in Foreign Lands. USSR fell on its own sword and didn't take any direct action from the US to fight Communism... I've yet to see one good thing from US Foreign Policy.

    Also please don't forget the Missile Launches in Afganistan & Iraq while also the US Interventions in the Middle East as well as Somalia. Clearly whatever lesser being (Namely someone who isn't American) voices their opinion against the US they're clearing morons in your point of view. All of the millions dead from US Foreign Policy were all necessary and totally justified?

    Read my sig... you're no different when you advocate such Policies like you do from the enemies you so desperately hate.

    Everything? Everything the country has stood for and everything that the people of this Nation died for insure/preserve you're willing to discard. How ironic that it's you promoting an ideology that is a similar to those you despise. But of course you're willing to sit at your PC discussing how someone is a coward while you're at home away from conflict. Why aren't you at the front lines right now fighting for the glory of the USA?
     
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    Really? Maybe you don't see the Hand of European and American powers at work establishing Despots as Leaders while putting their own people under their boots. I don't understand how one can truly rationally not see for the most part that many of the members of the Terrorist groups are just resistance to Imperialist Acts.

    You wanted to debate that point and you come out saying there is no right answer to the problem yet, you don't debate the information I give. Don't start a different debate if you don't care to debate it.

    I said the point was moot because these are two different groups butting heads with one another and there won't be any friendly exchange unless they work it out themselves. Supporting one group over the other will only lead to hatred towards us and it will not help us in the long run nor will it help the group we support.

    How is it moot? The Ultra Religious Zealots are angered by having "infidels" in their Holy Lands which creates resentment. Why the hell did we need that base anyways? Clearly after the 9/11 bombings we left the SA base because of such people. Having a base there never helped the US financially in any degree so it was a pointless extension.

    Isolationists and Protectionists... Clearly you've still never took the time to look up the definitions and clearly when we don't advocate Aggressive Policies we're considered Isolationists. Either you're the bully at school or the nerd who stays after school with no friends... Apparently there is a Black and White in your World when it comes to Foreign Policy.

    Stability for who? So far there has been no stability and from the looks of it currently the US has suffered greatly for its continual aggressive foreign Policy. Where is the benefit?

    Find me the Law or clearly established text that defines the strongest must be the World Police and expend themselves into ruin to control the World? Clearly we must follow the Ancient Empires that fell due to the same idiotic paths because it would be foolish to extend a policy different from it.

    Can't believe you advocate killing innocents to insure resources are secured. Do you honestly find that feeling of seeing children being killed and wounded a good thing because it helps insure Corporations/Governments have a resource flow? Almost every American Citizen has yet to benefit from the conquests you advocate. How is the Economy going so far? Going to blame it all on Obama and clearly erase the History for the past Century?

    Clearly those same experts predicted no Economic Collapse nor concluded the Federal Reserve is constantly devaluing the Dollar to worthlessness. I guess we will trust the experts who said so many things would be A okay or it would be a Cakewalk yet turned out to be a complete 180 from what they told us. You argue against Austrian Theory yet provide nothing of its failure...

    They're for the Status Quo they once had and want to keep it that way... You're no different in your means than they are. Truly you're not.

    Since you're old you can't get a Plane Ticket, buy a gun and proceed to shoot the undesirables in your mind? It's so much easier to sit on your comfy chair saying "WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR" while others go die for you. You're a coward at heart and just as evil as those you despise.

    1. Advocate War against a Group
    2. Willing to kill innocents to insure Total Victory
    3. Willing to commit Terrorism (Nothing is off the board with you Principle < Vengeance)
    4. Wants to establish a Status Quo to how things were or how you want them to be.

    Sounds a lot like a "Jihadist"... Yet it's what you support. How ironic?
     

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