MOD EDIT - continued discussion from http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/236309-rush-limbaugh-apologizes-ms-fluke-52.html Woah!...easy does it! Why the hostility all of the sudden?...we were having a raesonable conversation, and what happened? At any rate...in my defense...I only listened to Rush for about 2-3 weeks when I was working nights. And what is the difference between me listening to Rush, and righties listening to Rush for 3 hours a day?...according to Rush, 30 million people a week listen to Rush, do they all NOT have lives? Or is it just wrong when someone repeats what he says? Furthermore...Rush brought this on himself, and nobody is silencing him. This is evidenced by his continued presence. He only lost dozens of sponsors and two radio stations. Why are you trying so hard to get people to stop posting about this?
WHY???? because every chunk of internet bandwidth devoted to Rush's mistakes is a chunk that is NOT devoted to dissing the muslim kenyan marxist in the white house. duh.
Rush have nothing to sue, he already admitted he publicly humiliated her, insulted her, and wrongfully called her a prostitute. I would love to see Miss Fluke sue him, Limbaugh is banking on her liberal emotion to forgive him and not to sue.
Poor hyperlibs... they understand so little about so much, including the law. When Ms. Flake decided to thrust herself into the public arena with her political agenda, and thereby come within the scope of New York Times v Sullivan (1964), she changed her own status under the law. What? Don't know what NY Times v Sullivan is? But you're fully empowered to pontificate about how Ms. Flake might, or might not sue Limbaugh, right? Honestly, what passes for an "public education" system in this country is very nearly a complete waste of time....
Granny says, "Dat's right - put him inna pokey, let him cool his heels... er, lips... Lawyer: Prosecute Rush Limbaugh for defamation 9 Mar.`12 A high-profile attorney is calling for Rush Limbaugh to be prosecuted on a defamation charge, saying an obscure Florida law can be used to punish him for calling a college student a "slut" and a "prostitute" on the air.
I am not sure how you can think that Sullivan is germane here. The case had to do with damages claimed by "public OFFICIALS" Ms Fluke does not become a public official simply by testifying under oath at a congressional committee.
you would not believe it... but I got a positive reputation comment from a rightie who thought I was serious. wow.
So saying you need to get a life instead of listening to Rush is silencing you? Really? No wonder you are so upset about Rush. You don't understand English.
LOL, Allred is a lawyer and she is not taking the case, just pointing out that Florida has an ancient law that would only apply if Fluke were chaste. Need I remind you Fluke is calling for free birth control. If it were not so stupid, it would be funny.
Lol...Cons are completely lost without their cretin pundits to tell them what to think and what memes to push, so they are very nervous about losing limbo. A certain ambulance chaser has been hysterically spamming the forum during the past week with assorted threads in defense of limbo, trying to spin the scandal into predictably asinine attacks on Obama and the dems, as well as continuing to attack Fluke as a slut. Meanwhile, the cons continue to hemorrhage support from women, independents and pretty much anyone with a brain or a sense of morality. The limbo defense is similar to the birther obsession. The more the right-wingers push it, the more stupid and incompetent they look to the voters. So I can see why you want us to stop highlighting the issue and goading the cons into sticking their misogynist feet even deeper into their mouths.
It's OK, Ex, I wasn't born knowing this stuff, either. And, to your point, it does seem counter-intuitive that even a constructed shill like Ms. Flake could be a "public official" since she is not in a government job of some kind (at least, not yet). But the truth, nevertheless, is sometimes other than what we might merely guess, and that's why in most countries not already in the death-spirals of decay, people overcome ignorance with education: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure So you see, Flake is a "public official/public figure" with respect to NY Times v Sullivan... but from the first instant, anyone with half a wit could see right through this crappy little "guerrilla theater" stunt she and her handlers put together, in public, with high visibility, as planned. Bottom line: Flake is not going to sue Limbaugh! Again, and for the last time, Limbaugh was incredibly stupid to have called her a "slut", and a "prostitute" when, in fact, her big “cause célèbre” is merely another foundational pillar of Socialism: getting other people to pay for things a social parasite needs or wants. So, Limbaugh should have simply called her a parasite, which is what all Socialists truly are....
Indeed. Her name is Fluke. And, as to your point, it's a novel defense of the limbo slur. Pre-emptive character assassination ok if the target may, possibly, one day, perhaps, become a government official. After all, cons continually condemn government and government workers for anything under the sun while turning a blind eye to the responsibility of the citizens for the sort of country that they live in. The cons' notion of personal responsibility is as twisted as their notion of compassionate conservatism.
I am not entirely sure that - even now - you know all this stuff with the degree of certainty that you claim. While this is a long read, and while I am not a lawyer, it seems to me that there is much more doubt and uncertainty about what defines a public official and what defines malicious speech than your little wiki article would have us believe. http://digitalcommons.law.seattleu....rch="public official + definition + sullivan"
Well, I could blow around trying to act important, throwing out a smokescreen of example after example of case law, but it could never fill the bottomless pit of mere uninformed conjecture. Read a little bit about the history and extrapolations of NY Times v Sullivan and you may learn something.... Hey, I'm not a lawyer, either... just a guy who got a well-rounded education once upon a time, and one who tries to keep up with events and developments that affect our lives. Trust me: the Fluke-flake shill won't be suing Limbaugh, although Mr. Gas Bag ought to be caned for allowing this half-assed propaganda stunt to be turned into such a big win for all the hyperlibs and Obama-lovers. It's bad enough for us on the Right with an idiot like "Crusader Rick" Santorum shooting his mouth off and F-ing everthing up with women voters and retiring Baby Boomers. We sure as hell didn't need for some socialist "heroine" like the Fluke-flake to emerge as the sympathetic "wronged-party". Sadly, it looks more and more like Bernanke's handpuppet, Obama, may just be re-elected after all....
I have no reason - nor desire - to TRUST you about anything. Basically, what you are saying is that your non-professional opinion is different than mine. I got that. And I have never suggested that Ms Fluke OUGHT to sue Limbaugh or predicted that she WOULD sue him. I only questioned your non-legal opinion that she was BARRED from suing him based upon the Sullivan case. And I believe that moves like Rush's will indeed only help to reelect our president... which I think is a good thing.... certainly a better thing than having any of the four GOP stooges running for the nomination end up in the white house.
Well, while I agree with you about GOP "stooges" specifically where Idiot Santorum is concerned , for the rest of it, let's just see whether the Fluke-flake sues Limbaugh or not (don't hold your breath). Oh, if ONLY Rush had called her a "parasite" instead of calling her a "slut" or a "prostitute"! None of this would have happened, and he'd have been right, as he has been most of the time....
She would have a very tough time suing Limbaugh, especially now after it has been shown that her PR handler is tied to the WH. I say she won't but I am beginning to wish she would try.
