Russia is winning the economic war - and Putin is no closer to withdrawing troops

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Bill Carson, Jun 3, 2022.

  1. George Bailey

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    Traders trade. Short the market. A long way down to go. If not we go long. Follow your rules and technicals. Trade!

    There are very simple rules to follow and you can profit in any environment. The hard part is following them to a T.
     
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  2. Richard Franks

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    Putin is out to get Ukraine any which way he can and when he does, it will be whatever Putin wants, Putin gets.
     
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    How's those Sberbank shares of yours doing.....Bill....can't be that great now that Sberbank has been disconnected from SWIFT....those "4million" shares will be great wallpaper at least.
     
  4. Bill Carson

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    I can see someone is hung up on things out of their reach.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes indeed the article is Nonsense .. basing conclusions solely on exports from 20 nations
     
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  6. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Nahhh....just call out BS for what it really is Bill....it's hilarious to see a fish flopping outta water ....LOL .
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know if Gonzalos Lira is still stuck in Kharkov or if he managed to escape, but this video is extremely interesting. He goes beyond the obvious about Russia taking over all of Ukraine, and wonders what is going to happen economically to Europe when the war ends? He specifically mentions the migrants from the Middle East and Africa and what their reaction will be to not having food or heat.

    It is a highly informative video that I think everyone should watch.


     
  8. Bill Carson

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    And the projection continues. All because someone is upset the U.S. government wasn't able to illegally confiscate my private property and give it to the Nazi-backed regime in Ukraine.
     
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    The Russian trolls are getting desperate.
     
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    Yep....you can see the hysterics in their posts.
     
  11. Bill Carson

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    Russian Central Bank reduced rates back to pre-war levels, prices are coming down, their economy is improving and the ruble is 57 to the dollar (high 70's pre war).

    Exact opposite is happening here.
     
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    There are three Russias:
    The Russia of the rich and connected.
    The Russia of the poor and outlanders for whom nothing ever changes.
    The Russia that hopes to become more prosperous like the west.
    Only the first Russia has any say in the outcome.
     
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    Wow...rubble is worth 5 cents....let me know when it hits 10 cents.
     
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    I am no expert on economy, but I know that effect of sanctions is not immediate, its effects we can see in a few months. Is Russians economy is getting better or worse it will be seen.
    Meantime there is a big exodus of Russians:
    https://www.dw.com/en/who-are-the-russians-leaving-their-country/a-61364390
    Ethnics Russian fertility rate is one of lowest in the world, so how the exodus of so many Russians will affect the Russian future?

    Anyway, as I said before – President Putin deserves American Presidential Medal of Freedom:
    Putin-medal.png
     
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    What a ridiculously nonsensical post - lacking any coherent context by which one can gauge whether 5 cents is good or bad.. need to try harder mate.
     
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    Here's a brilliant an objective analysis by the Duran members and Gonzalo Lira of the US, EU and Russian economies. Panic is starting to set in.

     
  17. zalekbloom

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    Yes, for Russia supporters Gonzalo Lira is a brilliant and objective reporter, for anyone who read some info on Gonzalo Lira he is a Russian troll:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Lira

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/gonza...-ukraine-and-a-sleazy-manosphere-dating-coach

    https://www.thebulwark.com/the-redpill-grifter-who-became-an-anti-ukraine-propagandist-gonzalo-lira/
     
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    *LOL*
     
  19. Jeannette

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    One of the writers of the Daily Beast left after the hit piece on Gonzalo Lira and joined the nationalist (Nazi) forces of Western Ukraine - which tells you exactly where they were coming from.

    The hit piece on Lira was an assassination attempt on his life, something the Western Ukrainians tend to excel in. The Daily Beast sent the hit job to Kiev and told them that Lira was trapped in Kharkov. They did manage to find him, and it would have been a sure death sentence - as it had been for the other journalists who opposed the Zalensky regime - had there not been a massive outcry to the Chilean government by his followers.
     
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    In the 1970's, the Gulf nations nearly destroyed the West's economy with their oil embargo, yet this time the collective West is doing it to itself with their sanctions. Well I guess we're getting our just deserve. We tried to destroy and break up the Russian Federation rather than working with Russia out of pure greed and hatred. So now it's happening to the EU and US without Russia raising even a finger towards our destruction.

    Vladimir Putin's main concern since 2014, was to secure Russia's economy because he had no illusions and knew well the West's intent towards the Russian Federation. Yet it seems that not only the collective West, but the Russian government itself is surprised at the strength of its own economy.


    Bravo Vladimir Putin!

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    If I was a Russian citizen I would believe every word you wrote, that the Daily Beast are nazi, that there was was an assassination attempt on Gonzalo Lira life by Ukrainians, but I would add that thanks to the brave Russian soldiers the attempt was unsuccessful. I would also add Russian soldiers do not kill civilians or rape women, the proof is that during WWII Russians soldiers were known of helping women, children and people with disabilities and they keep this beautiful tradition.
    If I was a Russian citizen...
     
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    Are you kidding? What about all the Western investment and companies that expanded in Russia. The Russians were the Cool kids after the fall of the Iron Curtain.
     
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    It's bad.
    Their top engineers only make 20k a year. It's all the country can afford.
     
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    You are only lying to your self.
    Russian economy is garbage, no one immigrates there to become financially succesful. What's the average income level there, and what's the average rent, or cost to purchase a home?
     

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