Russia on the brink of collapse

No war between Russia and the U.S.

But if Putin annexes that swath of land...there will be DEVESTATING ECONOMIC PRESSURE brought to bear.

AboveAlpha

 

1. Every damage possible to russian economy from the side of US and its minions is already in process. It is the aim and strategy. All the show with Ukraine is used as an excuse. So there will be a war. Ukrainian fascists will be equipped with this or that weaponry and they will provoke war this way or the other. If they fail to do provocation in Donbass then there will be provocation in Transnistria or Kaliningrad or wherever.
2. This provocation is (no matter what the media tells to westerners) seen as an agression of the US towards Russia. So the nuclear war is quite possible even if it is not an aim of Washington.

 

But many Europeans, who don't love Russia, but don't want even to listen to honest Americans that is strange. Many these Americans (and at this forum also) tell about own government – that at cunning Washington the purpose to involve Russia in war.

...and if Russia is included into war, it isn't important where, in Ukraine or in Transnistria, etc. Europe will be included automatically into war also. Russia and Europe will be at war. Both Europeans and Russians as silly sheep who will be at war among themselves (and war will be far from the USA... even, it is possible to be included both China and Japan...) – and these Europeans – russophobs don't understand what they will perish too! I call this zombie...

 

This statement is rediculous.

The Annexation of the Crimea was about NATURAL GAS AND OIL!!!

Putin knew that the Crimea was loaded with Natural Gas and with Highly Advanced and Experienced American Energy Companies like Exxon-Mobile that within a matter of just MONTHS the Ukraine could with the help of these American Energy Companies undercut Russian Natural Gas Prices and using the massive and complex ALREADY EXISTING UKRAINAIN NATURAL GAS PIPELINE that was supplying Russian Natural Gas to Europe....instead sell Ukrainaian Natural Gas at a much cheaper rate and the UKRAINE could replace Russia as Europe's #1 Natural Gas Supplier to Europe.

This is strictly LEGAL BUSINESS PRACTICES and Putin afraid of this ongoing development decided to create a false conflict by sending in large numbers of Spetsnaz who paid large sums of money to Russian Speaking Crimean's in the Ukraine to start a war which resulted in the Annexation of the Crimea.

Putin did this to keep the money flowing that he and his 110 Buddies have been STEALING from the Profits of supposed STATE OWNED RUSSIAN ENERGY COMPANIES!!

This is all about MONEY AND WEALTH that all these former KGB, GRU, Soviet Military and Old Communist Leaders want to keep making and a NUCLEAR WAR is NOT IN THEIR INTEREST!!

No one wins in a Nuclear War and Putin knows this and Putin has ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTIONS OF STARTING A NUCLEAR WAR!!

Neither does the United States.

But I have to laugh that YOU and some other Pro-Putin Members actually post that a NUCLEAR WAR IS VERY POSSIBLE IF NOT INEVITABLE!!

It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY IN THE EXTREME!!

And you better hope I and just about every other informed person upon this issue is correct because if an ACTUAL WAR BROKE OUT between Russia and the U.S. the ONLY WAY Russia could stop American Conventional Forces would be to go Nuclear as U.S. Conventional Forces would cut through Russian Conventional Forces LIKE A HOT KNIFE THOUGH WARM BUTTER!!

As well....our Nuclear Missiles and Stealth Bombers but ESPECIALLY OUR U.S. OHIO CLASS SUBS AND BRITISH ROYAL NAVY VANGUARD CLASS SUBS....equipped with the Trident D-5 Mirved Missiles could close so close to Russia undetected then launch the most Highly Accurate SLBM's ON THE PLANET....flight time in most cases would be 3 to 5 minutes.....and these are designed to DIRECTLY STRIKE all SS-20 Mobile Launchers and Russian Silo's and Nuclear Bomber Bases.

In a FIRST STRIKE we could take the vast majority of your Nuclear Weapons out and destroy them due to our Trident D-5 MIRVed Missiles accuracy and speed.

As well all Russian BOOMERS....Nuclear Missile Subs....are tracked and followed by L.A. Class, Virginia Class and the SEAWOLF CLASS.....and we could destroy the vast number of your subs before they even knew they were being tracked.

But even if only 5% of all Russian Nukes made it past U.S. Missile Defense...it would stillcause the deaths of Millions.

Russia....would CEASE TO EXIST if the U.S. struck.

AboveAlpha

 

Indeed it is ridiculous in every sense. The deposits in Crimea exist and they will be enough to supply former Ukraine for some time like a decade or so. But these deposits are impossible to be used as the substitute for russian supplies.

1. These 'highly advanced' companies failed to set a decent export to any country but the US within all the times of their existance. There is zero probability that they would phisically help ukrainians to do on their soil and with their hands something more efficient.
2. I agree that if there was a single cubic meter from Ukraine for sale to EU - it would be used to cut down russian prices as low as possible. The childish argument will be used - why Ukraine sells at a price twice lower and you can't? But that is a different thing. The volumes of gas from Russia cannot be compensated by any other supplier for a long time. And the deposits in Crimea are ridiculous in terms of replacement but not in the terms of bargaining and PR against Russia (Look how greedy Putin sells his gas at a twice higher price than the european Ukraine!!! The dummies wouldn't even look that Ukraine is selling it at a loss...)

The old soviet pipeline was something american thieves have targeted since the collapse of USSR. First they tried to get hold of it through their agents in Russia. And lately they decided to control the part of a pipeline in Ukraine in order to control all the russian gas sales! Well. First of all I have to tell that the pipeline is designed from the very beginning to export gas from Russia. Firstly it was to bring gas to Ukraine and to former countries of soviet european block. Not from Crimea. To redisign the tube is possible just the way it is possible to exchange functions between the mouth and a$$. In some cases it is possible and even is natural but the very attempt to do that is riduculous and senseless.

Just remind me about the war which started in Ukrainian Crimea. I kinda missed the glorious battles. Would you PLEASE remind it or the first time in your life stop lying!

Russian gas is somewhat a half of its exports. If americans manage to make a show which stops EU from buying russian gas - it would mean that russians will live twice poorer.

When the people are aiming at money and wealth they always get into conflict of interests which ends up with losses, thefts, frauds and murders, which they haven't planned from the beginning. The situation sith criminals from the White House is just the same. None of them plans a nuclear war. But it seems that it will happen, because of their sweet tooth for someone's money.

If you want to laugh about the death of civilization (I mean our human civilization) - it is your choice in this free world.

American soldiers are weak and incapable to fight which is a fact known since Vietnam and the WW2. The conventional forces of US Army will only approach russian territory if everyone is 100% sure that russian army doesn't exist. The role for the slaves to die against the russians belongs to our former brothers. Ukrainians, georgians, baltic people, polish and in the very best (for US) case all the europeans (maybe japanese would also join). They will have a lot of losses in an attempt to fulfil american order and it is still a question if they succeed or not. Russia has no gains of winning such a war. And making a nuclear hit looks to be impossible under the circumstances. They are all to near and too far away from the US mainland. So I think that the war would start unexpectedly and Russia would be blamed for being attacked from several sides by 'free people of democratic regimes'. And under the circumstances I see no reason not to make a nuclear attack on the territory of the true and only aggressor. That would be a tiny chance for Russia. But the only one left to us.

Right. About 50% of our nuclear arsenal would be destroyed by such an attack. But the remaining 50% (in nuclear blast proof cases under the soil and mobile systems including subs, planes, track driven and railroad driven systems together with those which will not be exterminated in an attack will strike back at full power. That is the scenario that have been planned for decades by people much smarter than perverted crooks from the White House at present.

Just try to learn the year when these systems were designed and think if russians already have an answer to this threat.

Learn from your people how often they miss these subs. There is a constant game played and so far it shows that nuclear war is a loss to everyone.

And it is times more.

The planet will survive (hopefully) but the civilization would be destroyed. All the world economy and technologies would disappear for centuries in the post-apocalyptic world.

 

Good news to cooperation between Europe and Russia, but look bad for the USA...

The largest oil companies of Europe expand cooperation with the Russian partners, despite aspiration of Brussels to continue policy of sanctions, reports FINANCIAL Times.

According to the edition, the British company BP intends to take 20% of shares of JSC Taas-Yuryakh ... The amount of transaction can reach $700 million, writes FT. Recently the head of BP Bob Dudley declared that the company "will study additional opportunities for investments" in Russia.

The Italian ENI and the Norwegian Statoil got approval of the EU on continuation of joint projects with "Rosneft" that includes transfer of technologies. Statoil, according to FT, plans to drill this summer two wells on the North Komsomol field. The Eni probably will continue work in the Black Sea, assumed an edition source.

The Shell concern still cooperates with "Gazprom Neft" in Salym Petroleum joint venture and got approval on other projects, writes FT. The sanctions of the EU allowing cooperation on prisoners earlier to contracts allowed the European companies even to expand the activity in Russia.

The American companies have no such freedom: Washington blocked all joint projects on production of deep-water, Arctic and slate oil. "Gradually American companies will appear in extremely unprofitable situation because sanctions of the EU have no retroactive force, unlike sanctions of the USA" — the analyst of the Oxford institute of power researches James Henderson noted.http://ria.ru/economy/20150614/1069976664.html#14343101468774&message=resize&relto=login&action=removeClass&value=registration

 

First lesson in estabishing a Market for your product in this case Ukrainian Gas is to sell it cheaper than anyone else.

But of course even though in the U.S. we understand this is just a simple legal business practive Russian's just do get it.

AboveAlpha

 

You can sell it cheaper if you want. We sell our products with the biggest marginal profit possible. This lesson we have already learnt in the 90s and we will never again make mistakes folowing your suicide advices.

 

Russia can continue selling Oil to China for $120 a Barrel for about another MONTH as Putin stole about $50 Billion of the $72 Billion the Chinese gave a Putin Controlled Oil and Gas Conglomerate to increase output and exports to China by multiple the current Exported amount of Oil.

China is now saying....WHERE THE HELL IS OUR OIL!!??? WE AGREED TO GIVE YOU $72 BILLON BECAUSE YOU...RUSSIA TOLD US YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE ADDITIONAL OIL DRILLING RIGS, PUMPING STATIONS AND PIPELINES!!! SO WHY SHOULD WE PAY YOU $120 a BARREL OF OIL WHEN WE CAN BUY ALL THE OIL WE WANT AND COAL AS WELL FROM THE U.S. AND CANADA.....PLUS THE U.S. IS CAPABLE OF SUPPLYING CHINA WITH ALL THE LNG IT WANTS!!!

SO WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE EVER DO BUSINESS WITH RUSSIA AGAIN!!??

THAT....is what is going on right now!!

North American Oil and Gas Reserves are calculated to be 6.1 TIMES GREATER THAN THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST!!!

The U.S. and Canada will be 100% ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT BY 2023....2 years ahead of schedual thanks to Putin's idiocy!!!

China is i NO WAY ging to keep paying Russia $120 a Barrel of Oil when they can buy Oil for $59 a Barrel in the U.S. and Canada!!!

AboveAlpha

 

1. There will be no dollars in the deal between China and Russia. So the prices are to be discussed.
2. I don't know the way that people are bargaining for prices at such a level. But I am sure that China is fighting for their marginal profit and Russia is protecting its own. This is normal.

Russia doesn't prohibit China to invest into purchase of resources from US and Canada. Its their choice. And if I would be negotiating I wouldn't even consider the prices of a competitor as a matter for discussion. There is a product and there should be a price in Roubles and\or Yuans. The figure or formula is a matter for the discussion and negotiating and chinese are tough negotiators. Which is reasonable and good.

The demand for the oil and gas is growing. So in order to stop the collapse of the market they need to increase the volume of it. Which is firstly done by the rise of their own manufactury. And secondly on a basis of long term partnership with Russia. US cannot be a trustworthy trade partner. It can stop any deal having a political explanation. The pipeline means obligation and a need to run the business. LNG - is a from time to time purchase.

It is marketing information. But what kind of demand it would cover in the nearest time and in the future?

AHA! So you will be able to fill in the exports in somewhat 5 years and before that the growing market of China will need to wait and to refuse their people of jobs and higher standards of living? Do you really think that CPC will accept it and stop their development in an attempt to economise 60 USD per barrel or even 50 billion USD?

For the moment China is investing into a huge tranportation project which links the whole world under the supervision of China. That is the future which they want to use for even further and faster development. They need energy and resources. And they will deal with both US and Russia to their profit I am sure. The struggle of US against Russia is pathetic. It doesn't bring US nothing but the decline. Political and economical. If the guys in the White House were a little bit smarter they would try to use Russia for the balance between EU and China trying to cooperate with the two major economic players to their benefit. But it seems that US wants a big war between its biggest competitors and Russia is destined to trigger a big war. But that will not happen. Russia doesn't want to perish that stupidly (as Ukraine does lead by US puppets). If you act as an enemy - you will be treated as an enemy. Easy as that. If you act as a partner - respect the other partners of yours. It is very unfortunate that the level of guys in the White House remains almost medieval and they are incapable for modern policy at all.

Showmaking works no longer!

If you wish to sell your oil to China at 59 USD - please do it. Don't tell it. Russia will export its oil only having a marginal profit from it. No matter who is the buyer.

 

Look at your source!! LOL!!!!

The Putin Controlled Media!!

AboveAlpha

 

No, you aren't right. It is controlled by the American fifth column in Russia

 

You are GOT to be kidding me! LOL!!

AboveAlpha

 

But……… there are some serious flaws in the American economy that put us in the crosshairs of some very powerful forces………

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-could-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar.html
Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?
Have you seen any of the following films:

1. The Future of Food
2. Food Inc
3. The World According to Monsanto.

If so..... then you know that the USA dollar to some degree is linked to and backed up by a plan to control the world's production of food in such a way that could eventually produce global famine.


"George Soros says that America must give up the dollar and accept world currency."
http://www.examiner.com/article/geo...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582


Back in 1994 I found out that President Lincoln had saved American taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments and since that time I have been wondering what alternative was available to improve monetary policy that would not scare the investors on Wall Street.

A Utah State Dollar could perhaps be the answer!????!!!

……..
Revelations 11:18
"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

In spite of all the foreign aid that companies like Monsanto are involved in……… technology like terminator seeds……….. can in some ways be like picking a fight with that being of light who seems to be capable of meeting with people who have a brush with death.

If that being who reviews lives with people can give an order to beings with UFO technology then??????????????!

http://www.politicalforum.com/russi...nt-talks-about-release-e-t-data-part-2-a.html
Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

 

I will tell you more. Putin don't sleep never. He is watching you even when you are alone with yourself. Putin can move synapses in your head.)))

The Russian media belong to different groups. In Putin's opposition media they say what they want. From morning till night they say that Putin is bad, Putin steals, and here in the US and Europe so all is well and fine. But we do not believe Media for a long time. Everyone should think with your head. To analyze. To compare facts. On center channels nobody can not call names. The US and Europe have been called partners always. Because the leaderships understand that the Russia and the United States can control everything. They want to divide the planet into north and south. But you are stupid bastards shed Russian blood. This memory will remain forever in the people. Two ghoulish faces McCain and Nuland and the American flag in the blood of innocent people.

By the way, do you know why Jim Carrey went to Sochi to Putin? Immediately after that, the youngest son died and he allegedly fell off his bicycle in France. And I read in the media demands to announce the signed documents. You know that he has signed with Putin?

 

I don't know if it is your translation software but I am not quite understanding the last paragraph you posted above to me.

Are you saying Putin's or Carrey's son died?

And by the way....I have ALWAYS been in favor of a Russian/American Partnership.

It makes good sense for both Nations and Russia really does need U.S. Economic help.

Canada and the United States are really one entity or Nation as both Nations are so close that when Russia and the Soviet Union before it and hina come out with their Yearly Military Threat Assessment of Nations....both Russia and China include BOTH Canada and the United States as ONE ENTITY as they are listed as the North American Military Threat Assessment.

AboveAlpha

 

I was wrong. John Kerry traveled to Sochi to meet with Putin. Son of Joseph Biden is died.

Why the Russia needs the alliance with the United States now? You offered poor conditions. And after the coup in Ukraine and sanctions, everything changed. The Russian people want revenge. You had a chance of an alliance with us from 1991 to February 2014. I'm a fan of the analyst. I am interested in global markets, politics, and so on. When the Fed will raise rates the ruble will be to 100 or more. The Russian economy survive this. Society too. Coup d'etat in Russia will fail. The Russia is advantageous to wait when you will begin to solve the problem with an Islamic state. It will be a great war. Oil prices will fly into space. While high oil prices, we will be okay. During this time, we will advance in civil aviation, machine tools and so on. Expensive oil will hit the global economy. Will the perfect storm. The economy of US, of Europe, of Japan and China will collapse. The US has a shale oil, but with her there is big problems. Contamination of groundwater. Even if you go to a plasma fracturing the damage to the environment will be great. Next to New York and next to large lakes, you will not be able to develop shale. Good deposits of oil shale in Texas. But in a crisis in the economy and the huge debt problems the Texas can secede. Especially if Russia and China will take part. Yet there are good stocks in the area of Utah, but this is not enough for all of America. There is Bakken on the border with Canada. And what about the explosion of shale oil? How many trains exploded? In addition, China accelerates the creation of a canal in Nicaragua. The Russia plans to build a military base in Nicaragua to protect against the United States. It will have a strong political pressure on the United States. By 2030, the United States will have peak problems with pension funds. In these circumstances, The Russia will dictate terms the United States. You should have seen how much the new equipment and weapons appear in Russia. Now I know what has become of the money)))

 

So now you have elevated Putin to a God eh? LOL

Here is a hoot.


Mexico to overtake Russia in list of world's top 10 economies by 2050, forecast predicts

 

You do not understand that I kidded? When it comes to Putin are all serious))) I find it funny to read forecasts until 2050. They even half a year can not predict the price of oil ....

 

Didn't. LOL Putin is serious business.

 

In the Russia there is a satirist who joke about usa and other nations. He had been banned entering the US because of jokes. Perhaps the US government fears that it may damage the virgin minds of Americans. I used to think he was exaggerating but after reading the American forums, I realized that his jokes contain much truth.

 

Got any info on that? In the meantime, plenty is banned in Russia like Russian officials banned the showing of controversial comedy film “Borat” in cinemas across the country.

 

The Satirist of whom I spoke, he didn't say one word dirty. He is showing the negative aspects of your society. Within the meaning of it like George Carlin. Only without the mats, farts and jokes about dick and so on. Now I read your forums and I understand him very well. Borat is dirt and dullness. I think that the borate forbidden at the request of Kazakhstan. In any case, the Internet has it all. On the Internet, write that Borat has been very popular in America. I tried to watch it but could not. Borat too stupid movie. In the Russia, these films do not like. One time I seen as the american soldiers p.i.s.s on dead enemies. In Russia, this is impossible. Such cases creates faith in us that you are animals. You are capable of any meanness therefore next to your throat is always necessary to hold the knife so you do not dare twitch. I've been in different European countries. Europeans are very similar to us. You are different. In the Russia you can not swear. You can not show sex. Now the government wants to ban hidden advertising of drugs, tobacco and alcohol. This is when half of the film the main character smokes and out as if it's cool. The majority of society want this. Peoples want to protect children from the dirt on the TV. Most Hollywood movies are full of mud and swearing. By the way, I think you might be interested to know that soon in the Russia will introduce mandatory testing for all citizens on drugs and the alcoholism. Have you many people who smoke marijuana? I have read that you have a very popular cocaine.

 

Got a name yet?

I am sure no Russian soldier in war has ever committed any despicable act like they were reportedly did during WWII.

You do have the Russian propaganda down pat though. I have no doubt that Russia will become even more oppressive as time goes on. Thanks for that info.

 

This is the funniest thing you have posted yet!!! Virgin Minds of American's!! LOL!!!!

Anyone can post, publish, blog, write, broadcast....ANYTHING in the U.S..

Wy don't you post the name of this person and we can find out way he has not made it to the U.S. as there are MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF RUSSIAN'S living peacefully in the United States.

Perhaps this guy does not have the money for a ticket.

Perhaps he isn't funny.

Since you gae us no name perhaps he does not exist.

AboveApha