Russia or Ukraine - which side are you on?

I think we never should have gotten involved in this in any way. Big countries gobble up little countries all the time and we really didn't have much of an interest in Ukraine. Except apparently Biden did but that's another story. I feel like because of fiscal errors we couldn't responsibly afford this. It's a shame but it is what it is.

Also I think we more or less started and enabled this. I mean our left spent about four years vilifying Russia for no good reason because they thought it was the way to get Trump. Now we're surprised that Putin decided to do what he wants without worrying about our opinion? Also I guess the Obama admin. just ignored the Crimea thing so why would they think this would be any different?

So all in all I wish we'd cut our losses learn from our mistakes and vow to do better in the future.

 

'Gobbling up' little countries by conquest is proscribed by UN resolution 3314

Here's a tidbit for you. Putin has never cared about anyone's opinion. He assassinates journalists and his political enemies. Historically Russia only respects force. Now he's being shown some.

I'm also sure that his invasion did not come as any kind of surprise; in fact we warned him not to invade.

This situation reminds me of pre-WWII Germany's demand for the Sudetenland. When France and England caved to it, they set the stage for WWII. Putin has already threatened Moldova and Poland should it win in Ukraine. The time to stop him is now, while he is at his smallest and weakest. That's a lesson we should take from history: fascists don't stop by themselves, they require the application of outside force to be stopped.

 

The 'media' has provided a false narrative for the war in Ukraine,

RFK jr 'spilled the beans' during an interview

The whole podcast is significant, from 1h23m into the podcast explains the war in Ukraine, it is 12 minutes.

 

I'm for reserving our powder for China!

 

We would be using different platforms and weapons against China than we would use against Russia. A war with China would be primarily naval, while we would fight Russia on land

 

China is catching us in the "Naval"....if you know what I mean.

 

In terms of sheer numbers of ships, they've got us beat PLAN 340 -> 300 USN.

But our ships are bigger. Also we have 29 carriers vs. China's 2.

My main concern about a struggle with China is not military. At this point I think we'd win a conventional war. I'm much more concerned about hybrid and economic measures.

 

As for not having a war, no, we are always at war.

And it's always the other side's fault.

Every time, or at least the politicians and the media tells it is.

And we know they lie, but we give them the benefit of the doubt,
every time, again and again.

 

the conversation between Jordan Peterson and RFK has been censored,
but maybe the President of Eritrea can get through the wall of silence:
(It's only 4 minutes and 44 seconds.)

 

RFK gets to the origin of the war in Ukraine at 5:35 of this clip.
And from minute 9 how JFK thought through the Cuban missile crisis and
his advice.

 

And yes, pacing or walking does actually help with thinking.

 

We have to get above the zero knowledge level of the Biden speech of Feb 24th 2022:
'The Russian military has begun a brutal assault on the people of Ukraine without provocation, without justification, without necessity.'

Despite knowing Joe Biden lies a lot, most people just swallowed it hook line and sinker.


The actual real life 'assault' was widely described as cowardly and disorganized,
completely different from America's 'shock and Awe' in Baghdad,
it was very limited where it did happen in Eastern Ukraine and North of Kyiv.


And anyone who put the chronology of events together would notice.
We sent the artillery shells over in mid 2021, Kyiv wasn't shelling Russia until recently, so they had to use
those shells on the 'breakaway republics'. And shelling of the city of Donetsk increased
from 2 or 3 shells per day to about twenty times that on Feb 16th 2022, and then Russia moved in
on Feb 24th to protect Donetsk.

So it may have been necessary,
but who cares? We are winning!

 

The usual plan with these wars of choice, is to keep the public from knowing what is going on,
unless something gets leaked of course.
But sometimes the rest of the World fails to understand how misled the US public is,
and unintentionally pops our bubble.

 

The Gen Sec of NATO decided to explain things,
contradicting what Joe Biden said on Feb 24th 2022:

Belgium: 'The war didn't start in February last year, the war started in 2014' - Stoltenberg on conflict in Ukraine:

February 14, 2023 at 06:59 GMT -07:00 · Published
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg affirmed in Brussels on Tuesday that the armed conflict in Ukraine did not start in February 2022, but in 2014.

"The war didn't start in February last year, the war started in 2014. And since 2014, NATO allies have provided support to Ukraine with training, with equipment. So the Ukrainian armed forces are much stronger in 2022 than they were in 2014

And this supports the claim Pres. Putin made that both French Pres. Hollande and German Chancellor Merkel were just buying time by agreeing to the Minsk Agreement
but had no intention of keeping it, and both have since admitted that is true.

People who believe the Biden narrative should find out a bit more about what has been going on.
Not from Wikipedia because that section, like many political entries in Wikipedia was written by the propagandists.

 

Ukraine did not provoke Russia. What was happening in Donetsk and Luhansk was an internal matter that did not concern Russia.

Kinda hard to see it as brave when the Russians outnumbered the Ukes so badly, hard to see it as organized when a miles long column stalled for weeks North of Kyiv.

Hogwash. Russia moved in to annex Donetsk and Luhansk and turn Ukraine into a satellite state.

Riiight. Lets see what you've won, shall we?

NATO has expanded. Sweden and Finland have joined, Ukraine is likely to be offered membership after the current unpleasantness is over. This is counter to Putin's explicit war goals.
The Russian conventional military has been exposed as a paper tiger.
Putin himself has been shown to be weak in his dealings with the Wagner.mutiny.
International sanctions have removed most of the market for Russia's main export, oil, and the portion of the market that remains demands a steep discount.

Tired of all the winning yet?