Russia threatens Denmark's navy with nuke strike

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  1. Clausewitz

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    A nuclear bomb for a row boat?
     
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    russia, the biggest country wants more land.
    putin can be seen without a mask, but people refuse the reality.
    he wants the former soviet countries, he threatens the west countries because he thinks they would let him conquest the countries he want if he threats them.
    putin is a threat like stalin and hitler.

    military force is needed to stop him.
     
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    Denmark said in August it would contribute radar capacity on some of its warships to the missile shield, which the Western alliance says is designed to protect members from missile launches from countries like Iran.

    It's the same garbage that Putin was fed before. This is the response:
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    No, it's just that they will have to increase their nuclear capacity to attack Denmark in case of a war, and it will start a real arms race. Is that what Denmark wants? Are the Danes being told the real implications of it? I don't think so.

    Then again, maybe Putin likes the Danes and doesn't want to kill them? As for the rest of us...Eh, who cares?
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're stupid...or paid.

    If I were a Putin led Russia, I would be putting my resources into infrastructure while the west was putting resources in missile defense. Land is great but trade is better, and cheaper. But since my administration is so "weak", I cannot do that. Russia wants to control intellectual resources, but can't because it doesn't know how to. Russia needs help, but it won't because it is stupid or incapable. Ultimately, they are betting that the West doesn't want to go to war. If the West does, then Russia is SOL.

    I think the BEST option is nuclear war. What do you think about that? :blankstare:
     
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    what a pretention of putin!
    he want to forbot that other nations prepare radar systems to detect a foreign attack.
    denmark has the reight to install radar systems to detect attacks.

    russia doesn' need more nukes to attack dnmark.

    but the west must study how to destruct russian nukes, that must be first priority for the west world, putin is a threat worse than the islamic state.
     
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    Bulava would not be stopped by missle defence.
     
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    Just nuke Moscow. :blankstare:
     
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    So one side is building a defensive system, and this gives the other side the justification for war?

    Yet you talk about how evil the US is for attacking terrorists that bomb us?

    Your hypocrisy is showing my dear
     
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    Not quite a rowboat, but nothing bigger than a frigate according to Wikipedia. Lots of "environmental support ships" whatever they are.
     
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    So Denmark, a sovereign nation that has a freaking right to decide its fate for themselves (just like Ukraine), wants to do the sensible thing and join in the most advanced and strategic missile defense system in the world, key word DEFENSE, As in none aggressive, as in to ensure ones safety and well being, and so obviously it is only complete natural and all your other bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that Putin must of course start an arm race by increasing Russia's nuclear arsenal in the event that Russia may go to war with Denmark??? Do you even read the crap they have you type or do you just zone it out? You honestly have the gull to call nations like the US aggressive and war mongering and then say the utter horsecrap that you just said? Jesus Christ chick. Your hypocrisy is mind numbing.
     
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    The ignorance on much of this thread so far is deep.

    The point of the anti ballistic missile (ABM) treaty was to try and stop some buckaroo from thinking a nuclear war was winnable. That we could launch a first strike and when Russia retaliated we could shoot them down.

    Bush unilaterally pulled out of the ABM treaty in 2002. Putin's comment was something like "This is a mistake".

    Then in 2007 we started putting ABM's on Russia's border in Poland and Czechoslovakia - a clear provocation and destabilization of nuclear détente.

    Any nation that further destabilizes nuclear détente deserves to have missiles pointed at them.

    1) it is NATO that is doing the provoking

    It is you who is not thinking. If Russia was to start putting ABM's on the US border the Pentagon would have a fit.

    This is just wildly ignorant of reality.

    Obama recently was complaining about Russia violating the short and intermediate range treaty. What he failed to mention is that it was the US that forced the Russians to take such counter measures due to the destabilization of nuclear détente caused by US/NATO putting ABM's on Russia's borders.

    What did we think the Russians would do ? We would do exactly the same thing if Russia threatened us by putting ABM's on our borders.

    Now to your point. Missile defense is for ballistic missiles not, short and intermediate range nuclear cruise missiles. These missiles are Russia's counter measure to missile defense. A counter we forced them to take.

    Thank goodness they did not go as far as putting nukes in space (the other logical counter measure and one that Russia threatened).

    Subs are another counter measure and one Russian nuclear Sub can, for all intensive purposes, wipe out the US never mind Denmark.

    Give your head a shake.

    This is madness. First off, it was US/NATO who destabilized nuclear détente. It is they who started this aggression by putting ABM's on the Russian border.

    Second - Military Force ? A nuclear war between the US and Russia means the end of both countries.

    I think you are woefully ignorant about what nuclear war means.

    One nuclear Sub- subs that we can not detect, subs that have popped up undetected in all kinds of places such as right next to our aircraft carriers, subs that even if we could detect them still have the right to patrol international waters 200 or so miles off our coast.

    One sub has 16 missiles each with 10 mirvs = 160 nukes each about 5-8 times the size of Hiroshima. Mark 160 US cities over 1 million people off your map of the US and tell me what you have left.

    That is just one sub. The thousands of ballistic missiles that would also hit the US the 5-20 megaton kind are each 500-1500 times the size of Hiroshima.

    Give your head a shake.

    No need for Bulava or any ballistic missiles to take out Demark although I agree with your comment.

    First thing that would happen in a real threat situation is that Russia would take out missile defense with nuclear cruise missiles. It could also use a short/medium range cruise missile to take out Denmark.

    Never mind terrorists. This is nuclear war we are talking here ??

    Yes ... building ABM's and putting them on Russian borders is a huge provocation and a destabilization of nuclear détente on a grand scale.

    Such provocation may not, in of itself, be justification for war but it brings us one step closer to war .. A step that I would rather we had not taken.

    A step that forced Russia to take counter measures which ramps up the nuclear threat.

    The only mind numbing thing here is that our media is not covering this issue properly.

    Denmark deciding to join an action that helps to destabilize nuclear détente is hardly a strictly defensive action. A explained earlier the whole point of the ABM treaty was so that some buckaroo does not get the silly and completely false and insane idea into their head that a nuclear war is winnable.
     
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    NATO wouldn't need ABM if Russia wasn't trying to reestablish the Soviet Union.

    Hell NATO wouldn't even need NATO...
     
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    Thanks for proving your own point. The ABM does not try to stop nuclear MAD, so claiming it destabilizes it is a great example of ignorance.
     
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    Haha if thats true it would bea second cold war
     
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    He's trying to warn them, but then again look at Ukraine. They wouldn't listen to Russia when he told them the only way Ukraine can be saved is by federalizing. People have to learn the hard way, problem is will there be a Denmark? Do they have any idea of Russia's weapon systems?
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    Nato exists only to undo what Nato has done.

    As for the Soviet Union, it didn't die, it moved here lock, stock and barrel. It shows itself in every aggression Washington commits, and every lie the controlled media spits out.
     
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    Worst. Post. Ever.
     
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    Lol, what?
     
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    Denmark today, Holland tomorrow.


    The threat knows no bounds in the imaginations of . . .


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Oh yeah!

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