Russia-Ukraine prophecies

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Howdy :woot:

    I have the idea of collecting prophecies about the Russian-Ukrainian conflict/relations in this thread. So, if you know any, please put them here for all to see. Thanks! :worship:

    So, I will start with this one from 9 years ago. Enjoy. :pray:

     
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  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what I came across by a Ukrainian Saint. He said that 'strangers' will go into Ukraine and pit brother against brother. He also said that Russia will invade and that they will be at Kiev in a week. When they do go into Kiev, which the Russian troops haven't as yet, the people will cheer them. After that Russia will solve all their problems.

    I don't know if it's the same Saint, but one did say the first 'Pascha' (Easter) will be blood. The second Pascha will be famine, and the third Pascha will be glory.
     
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    "Prophecies" are, at best, useless. And they can be outright dangerous when it comes to self-fulfillment.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prophecies are meant for people to repent so that they will not come true. I know in Greece Saint Paisius was reprimanded by his spiritual father for revealing what he knew about the future and he was told to stop. Paisius realized he was right, when he found out his words were not only being misinterpreted by fundamentalists, but that they were quoting him as saying things he never said.

    Since then there has been one bishop especially, who realized that if Saints throughout the Orthodox world past and present, were all saying the same thing, then there has to be some truth to what they said. Also, by revealing some future events to the people, it would benefit them, not only for their own personal repentance, but also in preparing them for some future events like a famine.
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Continuing with the American prophet Bob Jones.

     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this is why government propaganda and religion shouldn't mix. I hate to tell you, but the people are not going to cheer for the Russians in Kiev. That anyone who claims to be religious can support this war, or any war, shows them immediately as someone more interested in earthly power than spirituality. You've been duped, Jeanette.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canell - According to Fathers of the Church, that which will hold back the 'culmination of all evil', in other words the 'antichrist' will be Rome. This is why it has such a significance and why Russia considers itself the Third Rome. Since the first Rome split with the rest of Christianity, and the second Rome 'Constantinople' was taken over by the Ottomans it left Moscow as the third Rome.

    I don't know what will occur in the future and Moscow might not be the third Rome as they believe, but right now Russia is the one fighting the World Economic Forum's Great Reset and New World Order, which is the precursor to the One World Government.

    According to ancient Saints/Prophets, the Antichrist will be the most charismatic man that ever lived. He will be seen by everyone, something which could not have existed before television. He will be brilliant and will be a great philanthropist. He will deceive the world and be voted in as the world's president.

    Once he has the power, people will not be able to eat and trade without the mark of the beast. I guess something will be embedded in them and zombify them, because whoever accepts his mark will lose their soul - probably because they will lose their will to repent.

    Anyway, according to some living Saints in Greece, it's not time yet. There will be a WWIII and a cleansing of the world. All the wars will stop with a great miracle and there will be a Christian revival and a person on the stature of Constantine will appear and hold an Ecumenical Council to reunite all Christendom. After that there will be a few decades of peace before the Antichrist appears and the one world government.



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    When chaos reigns in West and East
    then we'll await the coming beast.

    Who'll put us all right to the test,
    by telling us that he knows best.

    And to avoid our bodily harm,
    we'll all submit without a qualm.
    Our souls he'll mark on hands and head
    to free us all from fear and dread.

    But woe to us, anguish will be

    for we had eyes, yet couldn't see.

    - Jeannette
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every “Rome” has been a power of man, not God. The original Rome is what perverted the message of Jesus in the first place, somehow warping the words of the Prince of Peace into justification of wars and conquests.
    Gods victory will come with love and compassion, certainly not with death and destruction. Wars are ALWAYS a result of men seeking power, and have absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus.
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    You mean the monks in "Mount Athos? :) The ones that predicted a war between Russia and Turkey and the sinking of said mount Athos? Right.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Saints are like the prophets in the OT in that they exist in 2 dimensions. They live in this world yet are not of this world. Some are in Mount Athos and in monasteries, and a few live among people and suffer greatly through slander and calumny. They're also given a lot of charisms by God, so the truly devout can discern whether they are Saints and not warlocks since they too have power and can cure people.

    The Church is usually very cautious before glorifying anyone after death. Only recently have some Saints been so great they they've been glorified within 25 years. Usually it takes about a 100 years

    As for Russia, the prophecies go way back. I read that even on Constantine's tomb there's mention of the 'Hagars' being defeated by the 'blond race'. Of course I don't know if it's true, but the prophecies about it have been ongoing.

    More recently Saint Paisius who revealed to some spiritual children things such as the fall of the Soviet Union, the invasion of Cyprus, and that the first nation to leave the EU would be Britain; repeated the prophecies about the 'blond race' (Russia) freeing Constantinople (Istanbul). He said 7 nations will be fighting and the biggest one will win.

    Saint Paisius said that when the war ends in Syria it will move to the Aegean and Turkey will attack Greece and then close the straits to Russian ships. A lot of pressure has been put on Turkey to close the straits which it has a legal right to do when there's a war. But Erdogan is a smart cookie, so what he did was close the straits and locked in the Russian ships and locked the Nato ships out of the Black Sea.

    According to the prophecies, the new secular government that will take over Turkey will attack Greece and then close the straits completely to Russian ships. Overnight Russia will turn from a friend to an adversary, and that will be the end of Turkey.

    Seven nations will be fighting in Istanbul and it will become a blood bath and the largest nation will win. The death toll will be unimaginable and I recall hearing that all Christians should leave the city when the war starts. Once when a priest asked Saint Paisius: "But what about all those poor people," Saint Paisius said; "that there has never been a decade when the Turks didn't commit some atrocity and yet if they were to repent, God would forgive them."

    Anyway right now things are not going well between Russia and Turkey, and I'm sure Nuland's visit last week didn't make it any better. I assume the problems are over Syria and I did read that the Turkish nationalist terrorists 'The Grey Wolves', are now in Ukraine to fight against the Russian army.
     
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    I agree completely!
     
  12. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but don't forget who the main "prophet" was - Jesus.
    Alas, Christianity is not only "love God and love thy fellow man" but also predictions about the "end times", the "abomination of desolation", St. John's Apocalypse (Revelation), etc. That is to say, prophecies are deeply ingrained in the Christian religion, for good or for worse.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What one shouldn't do though, is be led by prophecies because our interpretations could be wrong. Saint Cosmas who lived in the 18th century and who I consider the father of the Greek nation for opening secret schools and teaching the people, made quite a few prophecies. One of them was that the Turks will leave, as they did after the revolution, but they will return and go up to Hexemilia..

    Hexemilia is a town near Corinth, so many felt that if there was a war and they went past the town they would be safe. When translated though hexemilia means 6 miles, and Saint Paisios said that what the prophecy really means is that the Turkish ships will go up to the six mile maritime limit and that people shouldn't take it upon themselves to interpret prophecy.

    Up until now Greece hasn't claimed the twelve mile maritime limit which the mainland and all the Greek islands are legally entitled to, since that would turn the Aegean into a Greek lake. If Greece does claim it and the Turkish ships move up to the 6 mile limit on any of the islands, then it would mean war.
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    And now a classic one - notorious American clairvoyant Edgar Cayce on Russia - "Out of Russia Will Come Hope"

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've come across other prophecies about Russia which tend to contradict one another so I'm hesitant to believe them. There are two though that I found interesting. One is that China will be baptized in Russia and all the angels in heaven will sing, and the other one is that Russia will not be economically powerful, but spiritually powerful and that people will be going to Russia for pilgrimages.
     
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    Actually, the "sleeping prophet" Cayce has a similar prophecy. He said that

    whatever that means. Obviously it has not to be taken literally.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's something prophetic that's very timely:

    About 8 or 9 years ago I came across a Greek video that was beautifully done by a priest. I had never heard of him, and as far as I could tell he was not a monk or a Saint. But from his pictures it appears that he had worked in Africa with children.

    He began to get a lot of slack from priests because he was prophesizing, but as he and others have said since then, the prophecies are meant for people to repent.

    His video consisted of three animals. One was a bear, the other a dragon and the third was a snake. He said pity those who provoke and do not fear the military might of the bear. The first nation he mentioned was Ukraine. After Ukraine he mentioned three nations in the North and said they will cease to exist and become one.

    I thought maybe he was talking about the Baltic nations and was shocked when he said: Finland, Sweden and Norway, you have forgotten God who has given you so much.

    Right now Finland and Sweden are planning to join Nato which will be a direct threat to Russia - yet they have maintained their neutrality throughout the Cold War. Things do not bode well for them.
     
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    I don't understand what the big deal is. If NATO wants to nuke Russia, they can deploy nukes in the Baltic states, current NATO members. NATO doesn't need Norway, Sweden and Finland to nuke St. Petersburg or Moscow. o_O

    Thank for the prophecy anyway, Jeannette.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reason I mentioned the prophecies is because of the way things are starting to evolve. I can't understand how Finland and Sweden which were always neutral, decided now to commit suicide and become a part of Nato - when one of the major concerns of Russia was the proximity of Ukraine to Russia? It's crazy?

    The problem with the proximity of countries like Ukraine, Sweden and Finland is that Russia won't have time to stop a nuclear attack. This means there is no way they can allow them to become a part of Nato. The Russian Generals are now pushing for war with Finland, and Putin did promise the Russian people in December that he wanted to hand to future generations not only a Nazi free Ukraine, but a secure Russia without fear of foreign attacks.

    Anyway now to continue with the prophecy. After the Scandinavian countries, the next nation mentioned was Georgia and that they'll suffer dearly for turning on their Russian brothers.

    Well today I read that the Pres. of S. Ossetia will be holding a referendum on union with Russia in July, and said it will be a dream come true for them. S. Ossetia is a Russian enclave within Georgia, which means Georgia has claims on it. Georgia did attack S. Ossetia 2008, killing many civilians and Russian peacekeepers, and it did lead to the Russian Georgian war.

    Anyway we'll just have to wait and see.
     
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    Russia can’t even handle the war they have now. Let them go ahead and open a second front, see what happens next.
     
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    Even though Finland is not part of NATO it’s still part of the EU so the repercussions would be more drastic than the results of attacking Ukraine.
     
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    You can't? Look at what happened to Ukraine, duh!

    As I said, a nuke from the current NATO member Latvia will reach St. Petersburg in 2 minutes and Moscow in 5 minutes. Why bother deploying and firing nukes from Scandinavia?
    Apart from that, there are nuclear submarines that can go the hell they want. Sea waters belong to nobody. The same goes for Russian submarines - they can roam U.S. coast and nobody can't stop them.

    Starting a war with Scandinavian countries for the same reason as in Ukraine doesn't seem like a good idea. There are prophecies about a China-Russia war too. Well, Russia can't fight Ukraine, Sweden, Turkey and China at the same time. Not with conventional weapons that is. Right now the Russian army seems like a "paper tiger" - it is good in theory and posters but it fails on the battlefield. Russia lost 1200 tanks already. And the tanks and ships are not infinite, you know, Jeannette?
     
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    Well wouldn't that also happen to Finland if they became a threat? Before Nuland put the neo Nazis in charge to kill and cleanse the Russian populations and change the demographics, Russia didn't have any problems with Ukraine.

    Russia even gave Ukraine excellent trade agreements. It was when Yanukovich realized that those agreements couldn't continue if Ukraine became a member of the EU, and that they would lose hundreds of billions of dollars a year, that he knew he couldn't join the EU - or at least not at that time. Not that it matters, the EU is going to break up anyway.

    I don't know what the situation is with the missiles, but I know that Baker promised Gorbachev that Nato wouldn't move an inch into Eastern Europe and Clinton and Bush broke the promise later on, so the US can't be trusted in anything.

    If Russia felt threatened, then it should have been taken into account - that is if Washington really wanted peace. But that was not their agenda. Their agenda has always been to break up the Russian Federation and take its wealth - which amounts to 1/3 of the world's resources.

    The war in Ukraine was a means to that end for Washington, and Ukraine is losing about 15 thousand men a month - according to a reliable report. (Not the MSM of course, they lie) Anyway, the world will pay for these things dearly in the end. There will be a nuclear war.


     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought I would add this. Two events will be the prelude to WWIII. One will be the fall of Erdogan in Turkey and the other will be Israel's attack on Iran. They'll both happen around the same time.
     

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