Russia Warns Britain: "Do Not Tempt Fate"

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  1. Durandal

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    You just keep heaping one falsehood atop another, don't you? And always to make the Ukrainians out to be monsters and the Russians out to be saints.

    I suppose the Ukrainians are to blame for the Soviet Union invading and annexing part of Poland in a pact with the Nazis too, eh?
     
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    Tajas, what is it about this you can't understand?


    Christianity is purely spiritual and a condition of the human heart and soul. It has nothing to do with a person's physical aspects or desires.
    Let me simplify this for you. Christ came to help people perfect themselves so they could enter and unite with God in His Kingdom (dimension/existence). Political and racist views like the ones you emphasize are ego gratifying and self serving, and have nothing to do with the Christian faith. You are being highly deceived.

    First of all, Vladimir Putin's spiritual father is a well known monastic Elder. Why would he take advice from you when you're not even a monastic, and especially when your so called advice runs contrary to everything that Christ suffered and died for - not to mention the thousands of Glorified Saints that suffered and died as well and for the same reason.

    I asked you once before if you were prelest? So don't you think it's time you started humbling yourself and began questioning your source? From what I read and know, even the holiest Saints, who had deprived themselves throughout their lives of every physical comfort and desires, questioned the source of what they were told and saw.

    Satan can take many forms, and can easily present himself as an angel of light instead of one of darkness.
    Oh that's right I forgot, Satan told you that demons don't exist and you believe it.



    When Satan Reigns
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    Whatever's false they'll say it's true
    and throw the lies back onto you.


    And what is right they'll say it's wrong.
    Then woe to all, it won't be long.


    When everyone will wear a frown.
    For what is 'up', they'll call it 'down'.


    Then try to make the day a night
    so dark can reign, without the light.
    - Jeannette


     
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    You have the wrong definition.

    I don't know where you get your definition of God and Christianity... but mine comes from the Bible and the Nicene Creed.

    God's kingdom is spiritual and physical.

    Per the Bible, God will write His Laws in the minds and hearts of His chosen people, Aryan Israelites, whose literal physical descendants and spiritual heirs are the Aryan European Christ-bearing people who became the nations of White European Christendom.

    God's chosen people are physical beings [before and after the bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ.] God incarnated as a physical being, an Aryan Israelite, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, Jesus Christ. God's kingdom/government is physical [both the old Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem.] Jesus Christ is God's living temple made without hands and the bodies of God's people are the living stones in God's living temple.

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    The Nazi party was formed to fight the internationalist and communist party in Germany, so they were natural enemies of the Soviet Union. By dividing Poland after it invaded Czechslovakia, Stalin was probably trying to bide time, so he could build up his forces and combat Germany's forthcoming 'Barbarossa'.

    The Soviet Union was an internationalist globalist system similar to the one world government and corporate control system being strived for in Washington. Their intent was to advance into countries which had a thriving communist party and help them take over the government - so I'm sure communism as well as fascism was thriving in Poland at the time.

    I know Nuland's junta in Kiev doesn't represent the majority of the Ukrainian people, so I apologize. I know also the whole of Ukraine is suffering because of the self serving political impositions of the US, so I apologize for my country and its actions.

    What the junta is trying to do is impose the Western Ukrainian dialect on all the country, so they will give up their language, heritage and affinity to Russia. Kiev refuses to comply with the Minsk II agreement that Poroshenko signed. This means that the junta doesn't give a damn about the people living in the Donbass and only cares about the land.

    What the junta is telling the Ukrainian people is; give up your heritage and language, or leave - otherwise you will suffer the consequences.
    But didn't the Court at the Hague say that everyone has a right to their own self determination?

    The Donbass Republics asked Putin many times if Russia could put them under its wings for protection like Crimea, and he refused because he said they wouldn't know where to put the demarcation line. When they took polls they found that the further West they went in Ukraine, the less the people wanted to become part of Russia. In contrast, Crimea has a natural boundary.

    Strelkov wanted to advance and free Odessa and
    Mariupol which was actually a Greek city given them by Catherine the Great, but Putin closed the border and forced the armies of the Republics to go to Minsk for a peace treaty when Poroshenko surrendered. It was a major cause of dissension between Putin and Strelkov.
     
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    Per the Bible, there is no such thing as "Aryan Israelites." Nor, for that matter, an "Aryan European Christ-bearing people."

    And you still haven't dealt with the minor little problem that Europeans are not descended from any group of people who lived in Palestine. In fact, there were people living in Europe and Asia for millennia before the events of either set of biblical texts allegedly occurred.
     
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    I spent 20 years detailing all this on Pravda.

    God's message was for Putin who apparently rejected it.

    It would serve no purpose repeating all that again here.


    And He turned unto His disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that you see. For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which you see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which you hear, and have not heard them.


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    Maybe Putin rejected it because it's a load of baloney.
     
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    Here's the Nicene Creed. i don't see Aryan mentioned anywhere.

    I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets. In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.Amen.

    God's Kingdom is purely spiritual. It has nothing to do with our physical world. Also there is no such thing as an Aryan Israelite since the Israelites were Semites not Aryans. They spoke a Semitic language, not an Aryan one.

    Jesus took His mothers physical genes, and she was a Semite not an Aryan. Aryans speak Aryan languages, they do not speak Semitic languages - and Hebrew is a Semitic language.

    As for the Jews being God's chosen people, it's because they were chosen to bring the Son of God into the world to redeem mankind. They provided the moral teachings and foundation of Christianity, and the Greeks provided their philosophy and thoughts. Rome provided its structure and communication so Christianity could spread throughout the world - and it did. Egypt and Ethiopia were one of the first nations to accept Christianity - and they are not Aryans.

     
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    Interesting that Jeannette didn't quote the second Nicene Creed [which was the one most Christians profess.]

    There are a lot of important words, laws, history and concepts in the Bible and related to the Bible that are obviously not in the creed.

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    As I previously posted here... I don't have the inclination to TRY to educate Jeannette or any poster here as I TRIED for 20 years to educate via Pravda. Frankly, she[?] is not worth my time and effort to share God's pearls because it's obvious she will trample them.

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    The Nicene Creed I quoted is the original one translated from the Greek and used in the Orthodox Church. As for the OT, there are a lot of misinterpretations because God was revealing himself for a certain people at a certain time and in the only way they could understand. When the world had advanced enough for a fuller revelation of God, God sent His Word Christ into the world.

    As for the important words, laws, history and concepts in the Bible, of course they're not in the Creed, it's only an assertation of the faith. But the words, laws, history and concepts are prone to interpretation, and that depends on one's enlightenment, which stems from humility, not pride.
     
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    That's not much different than making the Russians out to be monsters and Americans out to be saints.

    The US has murdered 79 heads-of-State in cold blood.

    That's 79x more than the Russians.
     
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    And Vladimir Putin has a good reason to use a personal drinking cup when in foreign countries. I think there have been about 9 attempted assassinations on his life. The last time was when the airliner was shot down in Ukraine by mistake.

    Putin was returning from Brazil, and his plane which was the same color and size as the Malaysian airliner, left the Warsaw airport 2 hours before the fatal shoot down. Normally, Putin would have taken the route over Ukraine towards Rostov, but he didn't. The ill-fated Malaysian airliner did, and the rest is history.
     
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    Going to have to call BS on that, although we do have a rather rich history of facilitating regime changes.
     
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    Well I'm thinking the Czar and President of Afghanistan for starters? Maybe they're still mad at us over Sidney Reilly?
     
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    Ah, the ol' conspiracy theories again.
    I look forward to Putin allowing his cronies to go and testify about this attempt
    on his life. So far they ain't budging - on his orders.
    You don't get it.jpg
     
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    The mega Ukrainian/Israeli criminal Kolomoisky was behind it, and he was tricked into admitting it on video by the Russian pranksters. The video has now been removed, but I did post it many times on the forum.

    When the late Robert Parry of Consortium news investigated the shoot down, he was told by his Washington agent that everything points to Ukraine, but they can't tell the American people, because all Washington has in Ukraine is its propaganda.

    As for the Buks, well Vineyard of the Saker wrote a few days before the shoot down, that 4 Buks were sent into the area from Kiev and the Saker couldn't figure out why.



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    You thought wrong.

    The Tsar was during the revolution.

    The President of Afghanistan?

    Mohammed Daud overthrew the king. He was not backed by the US or the Soviets.

    The US backed a coup that overthrew Daud and he and a couple 100 of his supporters were shot and buried in a pit dug with a back-hoe that Daud bought from France instead of from the US.

    Then the military overthrew that group.

    Then another group overthrew the military.

    Then the group overthrown by the military attempted a counter-coup but failed.

    Then the military attempted a counter-coup and failed.

    Then the northern tribes formed an army and started marching on Kabul.

    Then the northwestern tribes formed an army and started marching on Kabul.

    Then the southern tribes -- the ones you call the Taliban -- formed an army and started marching on Kabul.

    The two counter-coups decimated the government. They lost a lot of troops, supporters, weapons, equipment and vehicles fending off the counter-coups.

    Whichever of the 3 armies marching on Kabul got there first would be the next government of Afghanistan, because there's no way the government could stop them.

    They asked the Soviets for help and the Soviets obliged. The Soviets did not invade, but they did come to the aid of the government and destroyed all three armies in short order.

    Your government's claims of a "Soviet invasion" is nothing short of Göbbelistic propaganda designed to whip ignorant Americans into a frenzy and give Jimmy Carter an excuse to politicize the Olympics.
     
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    You might be getting confused with Navalny's audio of him talking to his poisoners.
    And as Putin put it when asked about this attempt on his life, 'Navalny? Who needs him?'
     
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    Just more practice or is something bigger afoot ??


    Russia, China hold large-scale joint military drills

    August 10, 2021

    Russia and China are holding a large-scale joint military exercise in north-central China involving more than 10,000 troops, Russia's defence ministry said on Tuesday.

    The Sibu/Cooperation-2021 drills in China's Ningxia region are being watched for signs that China and Russia are expanding military cooperation as they spar with the West.

    Russia's Kommersant newspaper said the drills taking place until Friday marked the first time Russian soldiers would use Chinese weapons. Russia and China have conducted drills since 2005.


    more at link

    https://news.trust.org/item/20210810082158-s7pg3

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    Nope. It's thoroughly documented through declassified CIA docs and other declassified US agencies.

    Those are just the ones the US has copped to. If you count assassination attempts, and I don't mean paper plots but actual attempts like on Prime Minister Nehru of India, Nasser of Egypt, and Castro and the others like the Syrian president, it brings the total to about 94, and again, those are documented through declassified CIA and/or State Department documents.

    If you want to look at illegal overthrows where the head-of-State survived, that's 134, plus the 79 that were murdered, and then the attempted murders.

    That 134 includes Truwoman's illegal overthrow the Greek government, and then LBJ illegally overthrew the Greek government in 1967.

    Most of those heads-of-State were wise to the bullying by the US and British.

    That's why the US murdered President Schemarke of Somalia.

    Schemarke knew if he signed off on the contract giving Texaco, Conoco, Amoco, Phillips, and I think Standard Oil of NJ (which became Exxon before it merged with Mobil) that the US would take 92% of the profits and then the US oil companies would engage in fraud and devalue their assets to avoid paying the paltry 8%.

    That means the US gets 100% of the profits and Somalia gets 0%.

    And then the US companies wouldn't pay any taxes to Somalia. The US will gladly loan money to Somalia, but only if Somalia buys US military hardware.

    What the hell is Somalia going to do with four Gearing-class destroyers? Somalia still doesn't need a navy.

    But, the party's over.

    You been livin' the good life because you been stealing from everyone for 120 years.

    It's getting harder to steal from those countries out there. That's why you'll be in perpetual war until the end of this century, unless you get defeated sooner:

    The costs of not implementing this strategy are clear. Failure to meet our defense objectives will result in decreasing U.S. global influence, eroding cohesion among allies and partners, and reduced access to markets that will contribute to a decline in our prosperity and standard of living.

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    https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...gy-Summary.pdf

    "Reduced access" is a euphemism for, "We can't murder heads-of-State and illegally overthrow their governments to steal all their wealth."

    That's why the US panicked and created AFRICOM.

    China does 60%-40% or 50%-50% and those countries actually get 40% to 50% of the profits, plus Chinese companies pay taxes and China invests in infrastructure.

    The US is trying to destabilize those governments by backing rebels and insurgents to prevent those countries from advancing to the 2nd Level Economy, because once they do, it's all over for you.

    People are thankful their Standard of Living is better than Russia, but when China succeeds in sub-Saharan Africa, your Standard of Living will be just like Russia, and you'll be thankful for at least that.
     
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    Why do nations like England and USA feel they can cry foul when they park military forces just off the coast of other counties (be it Russia, Iran, China, etc) and those countries make a show of force?

    Imagine the reaction these instigators would have if these other counties set up huge fleets just off the shores of London or New York.
     

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