Russian special military operation

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  1. ToughTalk

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    Except I just pointed out that Putin removed all of his opposition. So. Try again.

    You do not have democracy. You have authoritarian rule. And your values and morals will be reprogrammed once Putin passes the torch to his successor...

    Thats why we call them Russian bots. You have no free will to think differently or challenge your ruler. No ability to pivot. Putin has ruled since the early 2000's. I doubt he will stop until he's dead.
     
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    Don't roar. We haven't even really started fighting yet. As Bismarck said, the Russians harness a long time, but Russians drive quickly.
     
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    Totalitarianism exists in in North Korea, but not authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is better than totalitarianism.
     
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    sorry I didn't mean to laugh too loudly but it is funny listening to you floundering around trying to put a merry spin on your failing military...I'll try and keep a straight face.

    oh is that right...so the 200K dead and wounded so far were just...what...practicing? When do the games really start? When you've been kicked out of Crimea or Donetsk? What are you going to fight with....wooden sticks...?
    Seriously mate you've got the next mobilisation coming up and assuming people actually go along join up what are they going to be armed with...harsh language and a tin of outdated sardines?
     
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    @Valery Staricov

    Here you go mate...this is the fantasy....



    and here's the reality....



    roar...:roflol:

     
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    Video link... Miffed Mobiliks

    oh deary me all is not well in the land of the mobiliks....but this is just the first round!! The next one starts in...what a couple of weeks...jeez makes you wonder what has happened to the Russian military..:salute::nana:

    cue Battery S'arnt Major Williams....
     
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    Meyerhold was a theater director. He was arrested in 1939 and, after sophisticated torture, shot in 1940. According to other sources, all his fingers were broken and he drowned in impurities. Eisenstein was a film director, his best film was "Alexander Nevsky". Eisenstein directed the film "Ivan the Terrible." Eisenstein received the Stalin Prize for serie 1 of the film "Ivan the Terrible," but Stalin forbade the demonstration of serie 2. Eisenstein died in 1948 of a heart attack and experiences about it.
     
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    The Russian people, led by Putin, will win in Ukraine and the ruling class in the United States will envy Putin even more.
     
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    No one argues with you that democracy is a good thing. We also have democracy and free multi-party elections in Russia. But only why are your elections producing such bad results lately? President marasmic Biden, old cowardly Pelossi? And in Russia - a strong president Putin, especially necessary during the war. Show me the modern Churchill. Or did God decide to destroy America?
     
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    Ukraine will again become a breadbasket, forge and gate of Russia on the Black Sea after the war.
     
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    Everything will be as it was in the past. Vladimir Putin is in and will be in the Kremlin after defeating Ukraine, Vladimir Putin will host a parade of winners in Kyiv and Moscow, and Surovikin on a white horse will command by the parade as Zhukov. But Zelensky will be shot or run away abroad and Zelensky will live on money stolen from the West.
     
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    Yep! Putin the same as Stalin never lies, the same as Stalin never ordered invade foreign country and the same as Stalin never ordered to murder innocent people. If you live in Russia - believe it or else...
     
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    Russia is trying to smooth out the contradictions between its two allies - Armenia and Azerbaijan. Today, the Russian armed forces are busy in Ukraine and Russia does not have enough strength to resolve the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. While Turkey and the United States add fuel to the fire during the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
     
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    It was not constructive opposition, it was traitors who always lost in free elections, who received money from American intelligence. Their place in prison or in exile. Liberals in Russia carried out economic and political reforms, introduced market competition, private property and democracy. Putin is not going to cancel these reforms in Russia today. Liberals have done their job and can die like Moors. (The Moor did his job, the Moor could die.) How much do I need to repeat the same thing?
    Russia has chosen the most authoritarian form of democracy, the super presidential republic, because Russia has the largest territory in the world and there is always a risk of division and civil war in Russia. Today, Russia is trying to overcome the results of the collapse of the USSR in 1991 and Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, where half of the population is Russian people. This goal will be achieved at all costs. We need a strong authoritarian leader like the Churchill in Britain during the second world war. 80% of voters and even more vote for Putin in Russia. The people support the goals set by Putin. And let Putin rule until his death. His role in the history of Russia can be compared with the role of Peter the Great 1. And you don't envy. God helps Russia and puts forward great leaders in difficult moments in the history of Russia.
     
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    God...lol. No wonder your arguements reek of dilusion.
     
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    The Russian army has slightly more than 6 thousand killed, and not 200 thousand killed and wounded. About 100 thousand killed in the Ukrainian army,. The ratio of those killed in the Russian and Ukrainian armies is 1 to 10, because the Russian army has superiority in artillery, aviation, and so on. Our military factories work in three shifts to produce more weapons.

    It's going great, mate. Don't even dream of Crimea and Donetsk. Better remember how the Americans fled from Afghanistan on airplanes, abandoning all weapons and their servants in Kabul. These servants grabbed for the wheels of aircraft and crashed on the asphalt. Zelensky will also grab the wheels of the plane and beg of the Americans to save him.
     
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    That's exactly how Putin never lies. The Russians came to Ukraine because the Americans put the Nazis at power and Americans began to build NATO bases in Ukraine.
     
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    I do not believe in God and used this word for the red word
     
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    yes it is slightly more.

    Okay just for the sake of argument, if the figure was 300K killed and wounded, in light of this crusade that Russia has embarked upon would that be acceptable number...do you think the death and injury of 300,000 Russian men in 9 months can be justified?
     
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    exactly - so we agree then.
    The Russian military started massing troops on the borders of Ukraine in late 2020 to early 2021. They underwent many exercises and drills throughout 2021 in anticipation of a 10 day special operation which commenced 24th February 2022. 9 months later and ALL the first line units from the initial build-up are combat ineffective, the VVS is no where to be seen the Russian navy is dead in the water. You think there is only 6,000 men killed, so happened? Where are these men that havent been killed? Russia doesn't have any men to spare and cannot even uphold a simple agreement with its allies? and you think all is well in the world......
    ...awww how sweet for you....there's a good little Russian....:salute:


    roar......:D
     
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    There is no "if" word in history. Putin calculated the possible number of losses before the start of the Russian operation in 2022. This was much less than 300 thousand soldiers. I sometimes think that the war should have started in 2014, when Russia captured Crimea without one shot, and Ukrainian troops simply surrendered in Crimea. Russia made concessions as much as it could, Russia hoped on peaceful Minsk agreements. And Ukraine fired at the civilian population of Donbass for 8 years and there were numerous casualties. The Americans trained and armed of the Ukrainian army for 8 years and the Americans brought up of Ukrainians in the spirit of hatred of Russians. Sometimes they object to me that the Russian economy in 2014 was not ready for economic sanctions, and the Russian economy in 2014 would simply have collapsed under the weight of sanctions. There is such a Russian song: "We need a victory, and we will not stand behind the price." Here is the attitude of the Russians to this war. Putin said that the delay in starting the operation would only aggravate our situation.
     
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    I believe only the Ministry of Defense of Russia, and Ukrainians lie like Dr. Goebbels.
     
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    As a result of the strikes on November 23, an emergency power outage began throughout Ukraine. At all three nuclear power plants in Ukraine - South Ukrainian, Khmelnitsky and Rivne - the power units were automatically disconnected from the power supply network, as a result of which all power units operate without generation in the power system. As Savely Kramarov said in the comedy "Gentlemen of Fortune": "There will be no cinema, the electricity is over."
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