Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    For example? And don't prattle on about Iraq. Iraq was committing acts of war against the U.S. for years BEFORE the U.S. led invasion of 2003
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Chinese will get around to that eventually.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is that Trump's commentary made them wonder if that was still the case. Trump flat out said NATO was obsolete and US should reconsider our involvement in it. He thought US pays for militaries of other countries, which showed he did not comprehend the basics of how NATO operated and how it is financed.

    IMO He would have pulled US out of NATO had he won 2nd term.
     
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    The Chinese must be destroyed as well. And no, I don't mean genocide.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't - you are referring to a certain category of chemical weapons - within a broader definition .. claiming that because the specific category definition does not apply - that the broader definition does not.

    This is your logical fallacy. The special category in this case are banned chemical weapons - and this list changes .. to include other members that are not on the specific list - but are on the broader list.

    Look - I know you love war - killing - and want to have as much of this as possible - but - this does not change the fact that something that is both a chemical - and a weapon - is a "Chemical Weapon"
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. I would prefer peace. As long as it advances and promotes the interests of the United States and its allies
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have stated otherwise - and have shown no desire for peace - your post being testament to this fact "As long as it advances our interests"

    Peace always involves the sacrifice of at least some interests - so you are never for peace - by your own admission.

    What is ridiculous - and priceless in fact - ironic hypocrisy to the max - is you being called out on your war stance - crying "ridiculous" claiming to be for peace - and then contradicting yourself in the next sentence - and not even realizing it.
     
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    Sacrifices for peace are fine. Just as long as my side is not the one making the sacrifices.
     
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    Sure they are....if all major MSMs were gathering.....this news would be ongoing. Did you forget to take your meds again?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes - I heard you the first time .... you are near universally against peace - as peace can never be achieved without sacrifices in the vast majority of cases - the other one's not counting.

    You don't mind children being dragged over barbed wire fences - in front of their parents - so long as it is "Our bad guys" doing it.

    Of course if it was not "Our bad guys" doing it - you would be railing and crying bloody murder - in rancid hypocrisy.
     
  11. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    To be a hypocrite you have to have values in the first place.

    And I do not like "children being dragged over barbed wire fences". But as you said sacrifices have to be made.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have seen you railing against other nations doing similar stuff - so apparently you do have values - just for you or those on your side - what ever side that is .

    This is the definition of Hypocrisy Dayton. The claim that one has no values - is preposterous self delusion.. or - in the rare case where this claim is approximately true - we put such people in cages.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    So? Consistency isn't always a virtue.
     
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    Did not say it was - just calling a spade a spade mate .. you are welcome to your belief in killing and war - terrorism and crimes against humanity - on the basis of the slightest interest or material gain. I just do not share this belief.
     
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    bummer. I need all the people I can get to believe as I do.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah .. misery loves company :deadhorse::deadhorse::cynic::cynic::applause::applause:
     
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    But the US isn't, so why are we involved?


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    Fight and strife is my name
    and chaos is my game.

    I gear them all to kill and maim
    and then covertly flip the blame
    to you.

    So even though I am insane,
    and only think of my own gain,
    there is no shame.
    It's in your name

    and there's nothing you can do. - Jeannette


     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me ask you something, when you find that you have been wrong time and time again, doesn't it embarrass you? You know there are people here with long memories.

    How about this news from a non corporate news source. 'All the nations from the Baltics to the Middle East now have their fingers on the trigger, and in Ukraine and Syria the war has already started.'

    We should all thank Biden for it. He made the investors of the military industrial complex very, very happy.




    How do you do?
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    Uncle Sam is my name
    and regime change my game,
    which I do in the name of democracy.

    And what you should know
    it's all but a show,
    to gain me another kleptocracy.

    So if you object
    to what I have done
    in taking your rights away?

    I couldn't care less
    on what you might say;

    for with my money and guns
    I WON. - Jeannette
     
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    Jeannette misses the obvious. The U.S. is a neighbor of Russia.

    Alaska. Which means the largest U.S. state is closer to Russia than any NATO nation aside from the six sharing a land border with it.
     
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    Russians are testing Biden.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're being funny!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia is not testing Biden. Putin said he wants the Americans to know that Russia will do what is in its own self interest, and not what is in the interests of the US. Also that they are prepared to defend their interests militarily if need be.

    I recall the Saker who is ethnically Russian say once, that Russians do not make threats. They consider it a weakness. This means that if they say something, they will carry it through.

    I'm not Russian, but from the little I know, anyone who provokes and messes around with Russia has to be an idiot. They will put up with just so much, and then WHAM! They won't know what hit them.


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    Unlike some others in our sphere,
    to me Russia is: 'Mother Dear'.

    So if you try to break her heart
    and vilely try to grab a part,

    through devious means with lies and guile
    which as we know is your style,

    then also know you'll suffer ill
    and find it a very bitter pill.

    As others have who came before
    and didn't know what was in store

    for them - -Jeannette
     

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