Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting!

    I am beginning to think that I should perhaps attempt to convince Dannion Brinkley to campaign for the office of President of the USA.

    He was hit by lightening twice……….. had two NDE's……. and his approach to life has been transformed in virtually every way imaginable.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence11.html

    This "Twilight Brigade" organization that he began sounds like a great idea.

    http://www.dannion.com/the-twilight-brigade/
    AboveAlpha…… you, Dannion Brinkley and other near death experiencers clearly have a "greater compassion for others" as the Psychology Today article on NDE's asserts.

    This characteristic, in my opinion, makes you a group of people most well prepared of all people to hold real economic and political power.
     
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    Guilt Trip over a name? Oh Dennis, it's only the English. :rolleyes:

    OH, and maybe I can't handle the truth after all???

    I'll tell you a secret. When I was a young teenager I got noticed by some branch of the military, I don't remember which anymore. And they wanted to use me. And it was fun for a while, but suddenly, and I don't remember the details yet (I'll be working on pulling that out of my brain over the next several weeks), everything got so serious and I fell into a deep depression.

    I don't have depression today so something must have happened that changed everything.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well Dennis, there was this time as a child I slipped out of my grandparents house without anyone noticing and I fell into the backyard pool and almost drowned. But I got myself out, perhaps with the coaching of a stranger man in a gray suit who wanted to help but I told him I was fine and going straight back inside. My mom says I also told her that I had a conversation with someone on the others side telling me to go back for the sake of my grandmother and mom.

    After that I and all my siblings got swimming lessons.
     
  4. DennisTate

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    I admit it…… near death experiencers like you and Dannion Brinkley strongly tend to have a higher level of compassion and empathy than I see in myself.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html
    Dannion Brinkley for V. P. in 2016 and President of the USA in 2024.

     
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    You know why I joined? I was in it for the human experiments. What those aliens did to me was make me support Unethical human experimentation.

    You know why they thought I was depressed? It was because I volunteered for all of the interesting experiments regardless of the risk to myself. And perhaps I accidentally talked to people not in the loop about how I was willing to die if the procedures didn't work.

    There was this one experiment involving the human brain and a microchip. I really, really, really wanted to be in that one.

    Well it just so happens that the day they had it my mom took me to see grandma. Oh, I tried to stay home so I'd be picked up by the car they sent, but my mom, who knew none of this, was having none of it and insisted I go with her. Well, I was still a minor (and I loved my grandparents anyway) so what could I do?

    The next day I was allowed to show my face. I was picked up, and I went in, and I was begging the operator: is there any way you can run that experiment again on me? And they said: What? didn't you hear? There was a malfunction and people died (Or maybe I'm remembering wrong, and the dead people weren't even from the experiment but from some USA ground war in the 1990s and they were being stored at the school, perhaps).

    Well, they didn't find the problem yet so I pressed to go into the experiment myself and help them track down the problem. It wasn't easy to get the permission to do so, requiring a signature and everything from one of the higher ups, but I was persuasive and finally got it.

    So the technicians and I went in, they wired me up, turned down the voltage to a low feed, and tracked down the fault, and I suffered no permanent injury. And hopefully they were able to fix the problem and get it all set up before the next group of Yuppers arrived.

    Well, I'm into human experimentation so that's not what got me down, and even if I was shaken up by dead people this alone wouldn't have done me in, it would have needed to be combined with other events. I'll continue to comb my memory.
     
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    Wow!!!

    I am not sure why I have this suspicion........ but Dr. Chaim Tejman wrote up a truly convincing case that hypnotism.....(or I assume any method that could induce a somewhat similar state of consciousness)....... can act almost like a "time machine."

    I believe that you will in some way relate to the first page of this discussion.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

    In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....
     
  7. wgabrie

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    Well, I see where you're going: that the reason we're not in a sauna right now is because of the cooling affects of air pollution.

    Well, then, I don't see a way that we're going to avoid the messy ice cap melt once technology improves to allow us to mitigate the problems of climate change. The water level's going to rise no matter what we do.

    Well, I've always suspected it was too late to do anything.
     
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    Wgabrie…… it is such a breath of fresh air to see how quickly you caught onto that!

    I have been hammering away on the keyboard about this for years now………. and I have been scratching my head as to how this seems so hard for so many people to admit is an obvious truth.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...m-harper-deliberately-use-global-dimming.html
    Did President G. W. Bush and P. M. Harper deliberately use Global Dimming to..
    .... mask...… to decrease..... to hide.......to postpone......... a general Global Warming trend?

    A second legitimate question is..... within fifty years is it at all possible that we may find out that they may perhaps have had a basically good idea in doing this?
     
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    Dennis if this thing works out I think it's nothing more than a happy accident.

    Basically I think we just can't do anything about climate change at this point without causing widespread suffering and stagnation. And what for?

    We might be in a mini ice age in 50 years. But, I suspect, that global warming might help mitigate the affects of global dimming as well???
     
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    That is an excellent way to look at it. Yes……… a general global warming trend could well somewhat balance extreme global dimming.

    The fear of the possibility of rising ocean levels could also unite humanity in some of the only logical alternatives….. such as heavy investment in desalination of ocean water and in turning deserts green. Every cubic meter that is desalinated and added to the water table of a nation that has a lot of water…. will decrease the pressure on the oceans to overflow New Orleans.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html
    The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!
    Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days?????

    This topic is of special interest to me because I live about a hundred miles from the Bay of Fundy. I live five kms from the ocean on the eastern part of Nova Scotia. In my area the difference between low tide to high tide is about one meter! The land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect on tidal waters and so parts of the Fundy have a difference of fifteen to seventeen meters between low to high tide!

    The question on my mind would be if ocean levels were to rise about thirty centimeters in my part of Nova Scotia, would they rise by four or five meters along parts of the Fundy????

    There are 143,000 acres of farmland taken back from the Fundy by dikes that are probably in the position of the proverbial canary in a coal mine in relation to rising ocean levels!

    Every cubic meter of H2O added to the water table of nations in the Middle EAst will NOT be on top of New Orleans, Florida, Holland, Bangladesh or those 143,000 acres along the Fundy!!!!!

    I felt a huge sense of relief when I first heard about The Sahara Forest Project!


    https://www.facebook.com/SaharaForestProject
    Sahara Forest Project

     
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    Well, Agriculture is a lot of work and low profit, and I don't think anyone wants to do it in the middle of a desert.

    Never mind supporting a whole troop of workers out in the middle of no where.
     
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    The U.S. and Canada learned a HARD LESSON after over plowing and not resting planting fields for a season as well as not making sure grid areas has CROSSING PATTERS PLOWING which was one of the reasons that resulted in the DUST BOWL as wind traveled along row lines for multiple miles before they ran into an obsticle.

    The Dust Bowl is something every member should read about as it details WHAT YOU SHOULD NEVER DO.....af far as planting on a massive scale.

    The U.S. and Canada and especially the Great Plains of the United States and parts of Canada contain the GREATEST BY DEPTH AND AREA AMOUNT OF HIGH NUTRIENT PLANTING LAND ON THE PLANET EXISTING IN A PERFECT ECOSYSTEM PERFECT FRO GROWING and in the U.S.'s Case....MORE CORN THAT THE REAST OF THE WORLD COMBINED GROWS....MORE WHEAT......MORE SOYBEAN....etc.

    The U.S. and Canada exist is a VIRTUAL FARMERS PARADISE and we are still learning.

    We were bringing Russian and Chinese Farmers over to the U.S. and Canada along with the U.S. Dept of Agriculture to teach both the Russian's and the Chinese how they needed to change their 1000 year practice of growing crops and food.

    Weare particularily worried about China's methods of growing Chickens as it is vastly unsanitary and there has already been close to a total AVAIAN FLUE BREAKOUT COMING FROM CHINA that could result in the deaths of Hundreds of Millions of People.

    Swine Flue is also an issue in China.

    In Russia it is all about COLD...as year after year Russian Winter Wheat Crops FAIL.....so we set up Control Group Fields in Canada and the Northern U.S. as well as in Russia to teach the Russian's how they could prevent Huge Crop Loss.

    It is true that the U.S. does use Genetically Altered Seed and we have been doing this for multiple decades and because of this we are able to develop Corn that can grow in Northern Africa where NOTHING ELSE WILL GROW and the U.S. is accordig to the U.N. Poverty and Hunger Committee directly responsible for KEEPING OVER 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE ALIVE EACH YEAR FROM U.S. AID!!

    Now Corn never used to exist....it was a short plant about 4 inched high that had 3 to 4 large edible but ver hard seeds on it. The Mayan's cross bred this plant with a tall reeed plant and then cross bred that plant with another plant that developed EARS OF CORN!!!

    CORN IS A MADE BY MAN PLANT!!!

    And we are still improving on it.

    Just about every fruit or vegitable people have been eating for the past 500 years has been altered by Humanity to some extent.

    Now we are at the point we can Genetically Engineer a plant not to be susceptible to disease or drought.

    This causes some in Europe to Protest....but ask yourself this....if you were living in Solalia and dying of Hunger...DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WERE THOSE FREE SEEDS MADE BY MONSANTO WERE BEING DEVELOPED??? HELL NO!!!

    All you know is THEY ARE FREE!!

    THEY GROW EVEN IN SAND!!!

    THEY TASTE VERY GOOD!!

    THE BUGS DON'T EAT THEM!

    AND THEY KEEP YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALIVE!!

    There is a LOT of Money in growing food and the girls are planting the final part of my very large garden now.

    I donate a huge amount of the food grown to FOOD BANKS and I still feed and can and freeze all I and my family and friends need.

    One Beefsteak Tomato Plant.....and I grow 12 Beefsteak and a number of others.....and I plant the Beefsteak Variety in Western Mass. Soil and I burn all my brush and apple, cherry, peach, plumb, and other branches in the center of the garden and I don't use poisons but I do plant right through to the rototilled soil a few dump trucks of freshly cut grass as the grass decays quicly and heats up the soil causing rapid and strong plant growth.

    I BEEFSTEAK TOMATO PLANT....caged.....I was able to pick 135 almost softball sized Tomatos and I picked another 75 Green Tomatos off the same plant of which 50 smal ones became PICKLED GREEN TOMATOS...AWESOME!! The other 25 were larger and I kept some and they turned red on my deck table and the rest I donated to a Food Bank along with Hundreds upon Hundreds of Beefsteak, Early Girl, Roma Plumb, Celebrity, Jetstar. Heirloom and Giant Cherry Tomatos as well I plant 3 Low Acid Orange Tomatos.

    My Peppers and I cage my peppers as well....I donated over 400 Peppers most California Emerald and Bell along with Pablano, Hungarian Wax......Cayanee and Habanero.

    Egg Plant.....I donated about 100 and mine grow very large before they get large seed in them.

    Green and Yellow Stringess Beans....I grow so many I can many and freeze many.

    Flat and long European Greeen Flat Beens.....they grow like a Pole Bean and I make a TEEPEE for the kids.

    I grow my own Onions....Red, Green, Yellow, White as well as I grow Garlic, Chive, Basil, Tyme, Mint, Oregano, Rosemary, Pasley, Cilantro....etc.

    I grow 4 kinds of Cucumber and my favorite is American Burpless which grows very long sometimes up to 30 inches and 2 inches in diameter with NO SEED!!

    Also reguar cucumbers, picklers and English.

    I grow Ochra....which is AWESOME Deep Fried.

    I love making Jalapenho Poppers.....slice an single thin opening into a Pepper.....fill with Cream Cheeze.....wet ouside of pepper and roll in flower.

    FREEZE SOLID.

    Take out and bring Oil up to 400 Degrees.

    Take 2 eggs and beat.....salt and pepper....roll flozen flour covered Jalapenho pepper filled with frozen cream cheese and douce in egg wash.....then throw in bag filled with combination of reguar bread crumbs and Panko Bread Crumbs which have been spiced.

    PLACE SLOWLEY each pepper into flyer....do not place on atop of another so deep pan works best.

    When Breadcrumbs are Golden Brown they are ready......take out with flying spoon with holes.....place gentily on papertowel covered plate and srve with Good Marinara as dipping sause.

    I eat a crazy amount of protein as my height of almost 6 foot 2 and my all muscle weight of 235 has me buring calories even when I sleep.

    But I hunt and love VENISON on the Grill....PHEASANT, QUAIL. WILD TURKEY, LOBSTERS, CRAB, MUSSLES, CLAMS, FLOUNDER which I spear fish....and Sea Bass,

    If a person eats a very high Protein Diet and all the ACTUAL VEGETABLES THEY WANT.....a Tomato is a FRUIT.....so every day I eat 2 salads.....Ceasar and Meslum Greens.....along with Green Bean's or some other vegetable and add to this DAILY EXERSICE....a PERSON CANNOT GAIN WEIGHT!!

    I eat on average 4500 to 6000 calores daily.

    Before a JOB...my Team and I CARBO BOOST over 30,000 Calories of COMPLEX CARBS.....WHOLE WHEAT PASTA AND HOME MADE TOMATO SAUSE WITH GIANT MEATBALLS.....GIANT VENISON BURGERS WITH A-1 , MAYO, LETTUSE AND TOMATO AND ONION.

    Whole suckling Pig...this is if the guy's are with me as we like to come to my place to eat and discuss the JOB....and my Buddy cooks this pig all day and uses a new MOP to coat the skin with COCONUT MILK AND PINEAPPLE JUICE which makes the skin like CANDY!!!

    Man I am hungry now!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    But agriculture is like a raw material, it's at the bottom of the food chain. It has to be priced cheap.

    Farmers have a tough time making ends meet and they need subsidies to survive. None of this is bad because I support helping our farmers. But, here in New York many went out of business during the recession. I hear upstate is like a ghost town now.


    And now, as DennisTate brought up, there's currently the idea to pump sea water up into the Sahara, get it distilled, and grow food there. I think it's an idea before its time. While technology might one day make it possible, I think it's too early to be feasible.

    Oh we have the technology now to power it through solar panels but nobody it doing it, so...
     
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    Although, now that I think about it, wouldn't growing food in the Sahara be easier than growing food in a space colony?
     
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    There is only sand in the Sahara....little piees of rock....no organic material.

    Very difficult for anyone but the U.S. to do this.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You know what? They are planning a lot of brain implants for the future, probably in the next several decades.

    I happened upon an article today reviewing several projects: Update on the leading edge of brain implant research and Kurzweils predictions for brain implants in twenty years

    I'm especially interested in DARPA's brain implant to restore lost memory. It probably won't work on me because of the time that's past and I probably can't afford it. But I always wanted that perhaps some day I can remember things... but probably not.
     
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    I'm sure that if one ET exists then there are many more. It would be reasonable to think that just like on earth, they form alliances and what not. Having said that, it would be possible for them to have laws to prevent their interactions with inferior races. Im sure that if we were a space faring species we would have similar laws. After all it would be easy for someone to go to another planet that has the technology of earth in the early hundreds and be perceived as a god. Im sure all kind of bad people will try to take advantage of this.

    When we made it to space, it would be possible that ETs already formed alliances with various superpowers. IDK. some of the muffon files are crazy
     
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    The problem is there are too many people who need attention so every moment some nit is claiming to have been abducted and they do a specific Agencies job for them.

    But we are talking about Alien Races that are not only very different than we are but are super cold and calculating as with Extreme Intelect goes emotions in the other direction.

    Some could be Hundreds of Thousands if not a Million years in advance of us.

    Development and Understanding of the UFT....UNIFIED FIELD THEORY....is necessary for Interstellar Space Travel.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    On the other hand they might not be so smart after all. Maybe they just became superior because of their quantum computers.
     
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    We have Quantum Computers.

    We DON'T have a UFT or an understanding of a UFT....they do!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    It's their A.I.s you have to worry about.
     
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    Actually no. Never mind. I don't know if the E.T.s have A.I.s.
     
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    This eight minute video will amaze you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8pjOG4pXI

    Behind Greening the Desert
     
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    Hi Dennis, that is amazing. To think they were able to green the desert and then later when funding slowed it was just about self sustaining and ran itself mostly.

    Although at one point I was wondering if Isis rides through they might burn down that grove as witchcraft?
     
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    Can you imagine being invited to see a diplomatic occasion between Humans and E.T.s?

    And you go and there are all these diplomats who are important people? And you feel like one of the little people?

    And then when you enter the craft one of the E.T.s comes in and asks where the contractually agreed upon test subject is?

    And then it dawns on you that the diplomats are all important to the process and you're not, you're an expendable extra?

    So you "volunteer" yourself, and as the E.T. is leading you away you like that fact that the Human diplomats couldn't be bothered to bat an eyelash about what you did, saving them and all.

    But that's the way of the world. you've got to look out for your betters, be the fall guy, and take one for the team.

    LOL! :grin:
     

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