Russias reserve fund has run completely dry.

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  1. D0nRumataEst0rsky

    D0nRumataEst0rsky Banned

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    Often you do not even know who this Russian-speaking is. All of them are Russian-speaking and often pretend to be Russian.
     
  2. Draco

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    So people like "Destroyer of Illusions" who go on and on about how they want to invade the United States are not Russian? That he is "pretending" to be Russian?

    Is that what you are saying?
     
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    FYI, we've spent over $20 trillion over the past 50 years "not caring" for the poor and spend hundreds of billions more each year "not caring" for them. Those programs provide essential goods and services such as food, housing and medical expenses.

    Furthermore, you failed to note that the poverty line in this country is $11,000/yr., which is higher than the average income in most countries and that annual welfare benefits range anywhere from $17,000 to $49,000 depending on the state.

    At $17,000 in annual benefits, a poor Mississippian receives roughly as much as the average Czech or Slovak earns in a year. At $49,000, a poor Hawaiian receives more than your average German, Brit and Frenchman earns in a single year.

    Those are just government programs. I haven't even gotten into the charities, organizations and programs in the private sector that tend to the poor.

    Do we have wealth inequality and poverty? Of course we do - every country does - and so do/did the socialist/communist states that were supposed to eradicate wealth and income inequality but wound up impoverishing everyone except the government elites. There's a reason you don't see people starving in sprawling Third World shanty towns in America and that's because, despite your xenophobic rhetoric, we do care.
     
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  4. D0nRumataEst0rsky

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    I do not know who he is and for what purpose he writes it. Similarly, there are many anti-Russian pigs that spread anti-Russian propaganda. Maybe it's an information war or just freaks.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is one of the remaining Russian Trolls employed by the state.
    He is hosted on a server with the IP address 107.181.161.172 which is a known farm in NY.
     
  6. Draco

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    Dude ....

    Look at this forum, he is not hard to miss.

    He constantly posts about how "Alaska should be Russia", San Francisco and LA should be "free'd from American servitude by Russia" and plenty of other things.

    The fact that you are ignoring this makes me feel like you are not being genuine, he is IMPOSSIBLE to miss on this forum.
     
  7. D0nRumataEst0rsky

    D0nRumataEst0rsky Banned

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    I can name a dozen nicks who write here almost 24 hours a day. It can be just one, two or three people who write under different nicknames. We do not know who they are. Maybe it's the US trolls that write to irritate the Americans by the fact that Russia wants to return Alaska.
     
  8. D0nRumataEst0rsky

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    The KGB is watching you!)))

    In reality, all countries try to influence public opinion by all ways.
     
  9. Margot2

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    Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 ...
    www.marketwatch.com › Economy & Politics › Stratfor
    Jan 31, 2017 - One-quarter of Russian companies cut salaries in 2016, at times even skipping payments to their employees. The average monthly wage in Russia dropped 8% last year (after falling 9.5% in 2015) to under $450 — less than the mean monthly pay in China, Poland or Romania — while the poverty rate ...
     
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    I of course look at our war mongering, and the number of military bases we have around the world, and then at russia. And I see clearly who the greatest danger to peace is. And we as americans, are number one, number 1, number 1, USA USA USA.

    We spend more on war than most of the rest of the world combined. How much does russia spend, again? Can't wage war without spending money, right?

    If you are gonna get invaded by another nation, it will be the US, and not russia. They are not only on the porch when it comes to this, but under the porch. But if you can't run with the big dogs when it comes to breaking international law and waging war, you should stay on the porch with russia.

    No one who is a critical thinker would even put russia in the same camp as the US when it comes to war mongering. For it cannot logically be done. And it would take a pack of lies in order to make an attempt at pulling it off.

    So, if russia had invaded Iraq, too down Libya, and attempted it in syria using proxies, in their own self interests, what would you have to say about that? That anyone who would invade other nations is a war monger? Like Hitler's Germany?
     
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    You don't get it. Look, it is ok for the US to break international law, but not russia. It is perfectly fine for the US to invade sovereign nations and remove leaders they do not like, but no one else, especially russia should ever do this. It is ok for us to use our CIA to take down leaders we do not like, and to meddle in elections, or meddle in other nations, even helping to form and finance a militia to take down someone we do not like, but we would come unhinged if russia or anyone else acted as we did.

    See, we are above international law, and we have the god given right to hegemony, to invade other nations for ****'s and giggles, or in the interest of our rich elites. And we have a post ww2 history of doing this more than any nation on earth. My country, due to its leaders, are as immoral as any group of leaders or any nation could ever be. We do not respect human life, and yet we have the balls to point at russia? Russia compared to us, looks like a saint when it comes to hegemony, to war mongering, and to dirty deals done dirt cheap. We are exemplifying what a modern evil empire looks like. And if russia were doing what we have done, we would demand that the world take them down, for the world cannot afford such evil, which is so powerful, and who lives to kill, respecting human life no more than we respect the life of a pesky fly.

    I guess being a good and moral nation, a peace maker instead of war monger, an example to the world, the shining city on the hill, is not what our leaders want to do. They love wallowing in the dirt with other infamous leaders and nations who lived to wage war, lived to kill, and lived to protect a tiny group of rich elites at the top. And yet we want to rant about russia? LOL
     
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    I think that congressmens and other anti-Russian pigs would have torn own mouths from shouting))
     
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    Oh, they can't counterfeit like the US?
     
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    The Russians are poor, The Russians are poor... Yes, but we are exist and can tear the big fat American ass into small pieces.
     
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    You dont need immigrant families to pick fruit 3 months of the year

    Temporary guest worker men without their families can do that and then go home
     
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  16. D0nRumataEst0rsky

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    Uncontrolled migration is evil. Russia is full of migrants and it's a bad.
     
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    Ohh, I'm sure they can...;)
     
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    Thanks a lot.

    Anyway it's a bit complicated. Russian countryside is very different, depends a lot on an area. Countryside started to degrade many years ago, maybe in 70s. Lack of modern infrastructure - roads, sanitation, medicine, landscaping etc. It's strange, but the most poor villages which I saw, were in Moscow oblast. Very poor, half-ruined houses - next to good and strong new settlements - as far as I understand, Moscovites' dachas. There you can clearly see the distinction between Moscow and its countryside, it resembles like you have passed some border between two different countries. I live in Krasnodar and here it's different from Moscow. The local countryside around the city - about 40-50 kms around - is the city's suburban, many people from neighbouring towns and villages work in the city, have to trip every day, that's why we have the worst traffic situation in Russia, except for Moscow.

    No, I don't see more poverty in countryside than it was a couple years ago or five years ago. There is no starvation or crowds of homeless people, no any extra criminal activity, no gangsters on the roads or anything like this. But many people can't find their place in modern economy, they can't do the jobs which are in the labour market today. They get sufficient part of food from their own kitchen gardens but it changes over time. For example, twenty yeras ago many villagers grew pigs for meat, now it's too expensive, meat from store is cheaper. These people actually have never benefited from high oil price, so I can't say they are affected by the drop too much. Actually, farmers and agreeculture companies worry much more about grain price than about oil one.

    Drop in oil and financial sanctions affected mostly large corporations - banks, retailers, foreign companies and so on. Agreeculture has gained some advantage, that was one of the few industries which had growth during the last years recession. In general, Russia's countryside had very low living standards and still has, but I don't think it degrades. At least it degrades much less than it did in 90s, for instance.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure they can't
     
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    OPEC daily basket price stood at $67.38 a barrel Thursday, 11 January 2018 .. and some forecasters are saying look for $80. That may help the Russians.
     
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    I didn't check this time but I'm pretty damn sure Scarlett has taken the post #2 again on this thread...
     
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    What! Third to second... awesome

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    'Yesss. The Russsian people will now ssuffer under our ssanctionsss!' *wrings hands together while grinning* '

    Thats what you sound like.
     
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    I have never seen this. And Im on A LOT.

    Im looking for it now, though.
     
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    I don't doubt that you and other Americans do care. But that really wasn't the point I was making. The point I repeatedly try to make on this forum is the god awful hypocrisy of posters (scarlet witch in this case) who are quick to point fingers at the failings of other nations while stubbornly refusing to look at themselves. It's a psychological disease and very prevalent.

    I think you're conflating "we" with the elite who run your nation (I'm assuming you're a Yank?) and they couldn't care less about the people. The "elite" are not the government. The government are those who the elite control and use to run their income stream for them, better known as the USA.

    I imagine the conflation is because you associate yourself with being American and assume that anything America does, or is blamed for by foreign others, must be vociferously protected. It's tribal. But the elite who run things love you for it. This is how they continue holding power and increasing their bank balances year on year.

    The art is to be pragmatic and see things as they actually are in reality and not as we would like them to be -- or have been brought up to see.

    Personally, I have not associated myself with the British ruling elite in a very long time, not because I don't care for my country but because I recognise that the elite, and successive governments past, don't work in my interests or for my benefit - or the benefit of most Brit citizens - but rather for a tiny, very wealthy, ruling elite.

    The only tribe I will defend come what may is my family - and even then I am not blind to their errors and mistakes.

    And for the record I am not xenophobic. It's entirely the wrong noun to use. I am, however, ferociously anti neoliberalism - which is the ruling elite's eco-ideological mechanism for gathering wealth to themselves at the expense of the many and thereby ensuring they stay in power. Rinse and repeat.
     

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