Sanctuary City Hypocrisy

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Do you happen to have a link showing Abbott is sending known criminals to other States?
     
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    Again, why else would he be sending them.
     
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    CHICAGO (WLS) -- Migrants from the U.S.-Mexico border woke up in Chicago Thursday morning. They reached Union Station Wednesday night after being bused from Texas.

    The city is working with numerous community agencies and the governor's office to take care of the basic needs of the migrants who are now here in Chicago, but the issue has also become very political -- with the migrants caught in the middle.

    "This is a very important moment for a city to stand up and unite and help these individuals start the next chapter of their lives on solid ground, solid footing," said Mayor Lori Lightfoot.

    https://abc7chicago.com/texas-migrants-governor-abbott-gov-busing/12184995/

    In response to Abbott's cynical, inhumane treatment of immigrants I'll be sending a $50 contribution to help the agencies offering assistance in Chicago. I encourage others to do likewise. https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/0...help-migrants-arriving-in-chicago-from-texas/
    I'm also sending $50 to Beto O'Rourke. Eff Abbott and everything he stands for.
     
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    How is busing them to other cities that aren't overwhelmed inhumane?

    Shouldn't those cities want to do their part and not place all the burden on border states? After all, they support the lack of border security allowing this to happen. It only stands to reason that they would want to help with the consequences of policies (or lack there of) they support
     
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    To bring attention to the white house caused border crisis.
     
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    Dont you mean they are being sent there to create the problems that unskilled illegal immigrants create?
     
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    I don't want to speak for another poster. But it seems like he's implying its OK to have these "problems" in red border states but not in superior blue sanctuary cities? Its just an assumption, not trying to put words in his mouth. That sure is what it sounds like though.
     
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    Nope, I'm saying that its not ok for one state to ship illegal immigrants to another state for the sole purpose of causing trouble in the receiving state.
     
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    But they have a major overage of illegals and the people in the sanctuary states are the one voting for lax border policies. What else is he supposed to do? I mean its strange you guys want SANCTUARY for illegals and then complain when they are sent to one of these SANCTUARIES
    very strange indeed
     
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    Its not strange at all.

    20 illegals of their own volition take a bus or other transport from one state to another, no problem

    20 illegals are herded by the state into a bus or other transport from one state to another, problem.

    ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    I realize that for some people like Abbott, who don't see immigrants as human beings but rather as pawns to move around a political chessboard as election fodder, inhumane treatment may not be readily recognizable.
     
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    How about if you start there. Show the board the causation between increased numbers of illegal aliens coming over the border and Biden's policies. Not correlation, causation. Then we can have an informed discussion.
     
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    Cause: stopping the wall
    Effect: many more illegals
     
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    As I said, prove it.

    One of former President Donald Trump’s main presidential accomplishments was constructing hundreds of miles of wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. President Joe Biden temporarily suspended work on some unfinished sections in January 2021, but is now plugging some “holes” in Trump’s wall and adding some other portions. He shouldn’t bother. A few miles won’t fix what hundreds of miles already failed to. It’s time to just admit: Trump’s wall did not work.
    https://www.cato.org/blog/border-wall-didnt-work
     
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    I prove things all the time and you chose not to acknowledge it when I do. I'm not gonna play this circular game with you. Can you prove there are less border crossings under Joe? you are the one making the claim so YOU prove it
     
  16. Lee Atwater

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    Why would I need to prove something I did not assert? Your assertion..........But they have a major overage of illegals and the people in the sanctuary states are the one voting for lax border policies.........remains unsubstantiated relative to the border policies being responsible for the influx of immigrants.
     
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    Thanks for sharing! Yup! The border is functioning PERFECTLY under Biden. I will shut up now. You showed me!
     
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    Its simple, but not simple enough for some: The people bussed around are legal asylum seekers, not illegals.

    Unfortunately such childishness will end up doing the exact opposite of what he claims to want'. Why? Because Texas courts are in position to deny most asylum applicants, which is what they do (Houston denies almost all), while NY approves vast majority. So, in a way Abbot is in business of literally importing them to the US,


    The policy is an expansion of the governor’s plan to antagonize President Joe Biden over border security by busing migrants entering Texas to Washington, D.C., but research suggests the policy could allow more migrants to stay in the country even longer.
    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/greg-abbott-eric-adams-migrant-busing-new-york/
    Data from Syracuse University suggests that the movement from Texas to New York City may be opening an easier pathway to asylum for the migrants, helping them stay in the country longer. New York courts have approved just over 70% of asylum relief or other relief applications since 2001. Houston has denied nearly 88% of asylum-seekers. Dallas has denied over 72% of such applications.

    Abbott's office did not respond to a question about whether his policy was increasing the odds migrants could stay longer in the country.

    Some Republicans have observed the busing as a messaging stunt rather than an effective policy solution to the state’s border dilemmas. U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Houston, told CNN on Sunday that Abbott is “sending a message.”
     
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    Interesting. There is nothing mentioned about preventing them from crossing the border in the first place. Why is "band-aid" fixes the go-to method of the left?
     
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    Inhumane? They're in America and mehico is a grade A ****hole.
     
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    Because those cities declared their love of illegal aliens, offering them sanctuary. Since they DID declare that, then the Gov who's sending them is doing it for all the right reasons. Kindness, helpfulness, and a keen interest in making sure these New Americans are in the most welcoming place.

    If he kept them in a place that was not welcoming, how would that be a kindness?

    You seem very confused about this situation, CB.
     
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    Dude ... they're declared SANCTUARIES. It's the most obvious place to send them, for their own welfare.

    Maybe you think those 'sanctuaries' are full of racists, so assume that the brown people will cause trouble for bigots?
     
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    PROBLEM
     
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    It's Biden's way of punishing red states. If blue states don't like it, tough crap. I have no empathy for those virtue-signaling a-holes.
     
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    "I don't know" would've been a much quicker answer. Not as fancy sounding as yours....but still equivalent.
     

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