Sandy Hook Commission Calls For Government Crackdown On Homeschools

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, actually it is both. It's a mutual agreement. Parents do certainly choose private schools. That said, private schools do not accept all students. Private schools can't get students unless the parents choose them.

    My oldest son goes to a public school with that approach. It's a magnet school with a lottery for qualified applicants.

    The idea is that you would have schools for troubled kids as well.


    They are not a drag on public school funding, unless that funding is per student. That said, a school district benefits monetarily from not having to provide education for homeschoolers. The state supplement they get per child isn't as much as the actual costs, so school tax money is needed for all students attending. Homeschoolers don't get the state supplement, but similarly, they don't have services, so the school district comes out ahead. It's not as if school tax money at the local level is per student. It's usually property tax related, and is related to the value of real estate, not the number of students.
     
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    How do figure that one, sport? If a homeschooling family educates a child, the public school system is relieved of having to expend resources doing the same job.
     
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    Yes they can choose not to accept vouchers. If they do choose to accept vouchers though, which many schools do because its money after all, then they have no choice as to which students they take that is determined by the parent.

    It depends on the school. If its some ritzy private school where rich parents send their kids then I would assume those teachers are making more. If its a religious private school where I went to then they make less than public school students. That is mostly to do with resources. My grade schools was so small that we had combined classes with 1/2, 3/4 and so on in the same classrooms. There is no way in hell that church could pay 40k per year for their teachers. And yet students in that small school with dated textbooks manage to significantly outperform the national average on the Ohio or Iowa or whatever stupid state test it was.
     
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    Private schools that take vouchers can refuse students with vouchers, at least in Florida--they usually don't, though.
     
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    Is it your assumption that Catholic schools are representative of most private schools. The two schools my grandchildren go to are also religiously affiliated, just not Catholic.
     
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    A whole school of really smart kids is the best in the country? Who knew?
     
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    They do choose their students but the most significant determining factor is the ability to pay and the clout to get your child accepted. The myth that the kids are picked primarily on ability is just that, a myth. Both my grandchildren have significant learning and behavioral problems and yet they both are in the top private school in a major city.
     
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    Yes, because more students go to Catholic schools than any other kind of private school. Approximately 43% of private school students go to Catholic schools, 20% are nonsectarian (aka secular), and the rest are divided between different religious group. The other side is that Catholic schools on average are the cheapest of private schools.

    http://www.capenet.org/facts.html
     
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    Lovely - an eight year old report of eleven year old data. Yeah, that's helpful. And then there's this:


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    I've been following your posts in this thread. I have one question for you:
    Why are you so against homeschooling? Homeschoolers are among the top performers in our business industry. It costs the taxpayer absolutely nothing and puts no additional burden on an already over-bloated system.
     
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    Two things:
    1. Having dyslexia does not mean one is stupid or ignorant. Famous people have had dyslexia and have and were smart. Thus, your argument that one having dyslexia and graduating from public school is prrof how bad public schools are is invalid.
    2. Holocaust denial is a real problem here in the United States and in Europe. If your teacher believed that, he was not alone. In fact, you can teach your kids at home the holocaust denial as well. Does that mean all home schooled children are taught that way? No. And just because your son's teacher taught that does not mean all public school children are taught that as well.

    In small towns like Hutto or Fort Stockton or Menard or San Saba or Eden or countless other small towns, the public school is the only option for most kids. There is no support for private school at the secondary level in most of these small towns. That being said, because the town is small, it is peer pressure that stabilizes the norm in these public schools and these school generally do well for what they have. You cannot force kids in small towns to do what you can do while yo ulive in a large city or have relative ease of access ot a large city.

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    And that single example destroyed your gross generalization about public schools.
     
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    Actually, for most private schools, you have to have some sort of education ability to be even eligible to be chosen. Ability is just one fctor. Ability to pay is another. Clout is another. Religious beliefs may be another depending on the religions affiliation of the school. And there could be a host of other critieria as well. No school that chooses its students will choose solely based on ability, but ability is part of the process.

    that being said, children with behaviorial or learning difficulties does not mean a child lacks educational ability. Look at Albert Einstein. He had behavioral and learning difficulties. He was not very strong in math when he did attend school. Nonetheless, he became a great physicist in his own right.
     
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    Truth to Obama voters are distant blue mountains blurred by the haze of partisan view points.
     
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    That would be true to people who perceive mud puddles as oceans. Or, Obama voters. Both are true.
     
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    Not really. There are several magnet schools within Dallas ISD that are ranked high on national lists. The key word is: magnet.

    Dallas ISD as a whole, is a different matter.
     

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