Satansim: The one true religion of peace.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
http://thesatanictemple.com/
http://www.joyofsatan.org/
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/satanism.html
http://www.religionfacts.com/satanism
https://www.luciferianapotheca.com/pages/luciferianism-an-introduction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism

And look, no violence, no hatred, no hatred of nonbelievers. Not to mention the lack of a body in the name of Satanism. The time is now! Embrace Satanism today.

 

Now time for some body counts to consider.

Christianity: 209.85Million
Islam: 46.72Million

In the Bible.
God: 2,270,365
Satan: 10

Satanism is clearly superior as there aren't even stats on the body count of Satanism.

 

If all Muslims, Christians, and Jews converted to Satanism, the world would be a far better place.

 

No you'd just see more violence in Satanism.

You can take the religion out of the humans but you can't take the humans out of religion.

 

In a lot of ways, LaVeyan Satanism is the polar opposite of my belief system -- it prescribes self-worship when my belief system largely revolves around doubting the very concept of "self" -- but I've had great conversations with Satanists, and I like a lot of their writings. I also find it interesting that one of their laws (can't remember which one) mentions not showing people compassion unless they deserve it . . . which implies that some people inherently deserve compassion. This is interesting when orthodox Christianity teaches that no one deserves compassion, and that compassion is a gift bestowed by God despite the fact that everyone deserves torture and damnation.

 

Already done, except for the "better place" part.

Humanity, well, at least the occident, have been adorating satan for some times now, as they hold his ideals more than abrahamic ones (themselves already satanic here and there). These are:

- Money
- Power
- Self and
- Bestial Instincts.

Some may describe theses as Satanistic ideals, but in fact they are natural ones. Abrahamic religions' goal are to fight off these ideals, to a certain degree.

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Then it can't be Christian. Compassion is at the heart of Christianity - in theory.

All of the above is my own humble opinion and nothing more, mind you.

 

Yes, but compassion as a gift. Compassion as grace. Traditional Christianity teaches that, if we all got what we deserved, we would all burn in Hell for eternity. In traditional Christianity, no one deserves compassion; no one is owed compassion. Compassion is something that is given despite our lowly and evil nature.

 

You sure about that? In my own catholic education, there was something akin to "whatever good you do to the little guys you are doing it to me" that was central in the Christ's message.

That fact that we are "damned" would be a matter of god to decide anyway... as for us, he (trought his envoy) asks us to love one another like if they were ourselves, isn't it?

In other words, it seems clear to me that Christinity teaches compassion - in theory, still.

 

Talk about reaching to the bottom of the barrel? So one of their laws is only showing compassion to "those who deserve it". Isn't this pretty much what's happening now? ...and who gets to decide this? We all know or see people who technically shouldn't ever receive compassion again or deserve far worse than what they are getting.

They can keep their "love of self" laws. Its more like an insidious spiritual cancer. It lies at the root of all sin and self-centeredness, producing a very real darkness in the minds of those who tolerate it.


When people receive Gods love, He teaches us to love Him in return and that love overflows to our neighbor. What you give up is returned. TEN FOLD! What you seek to keep, you lose. The one who grasps at self esteem will lose what little he has. Hence the freakish overly photo shopped selfie craze. lol The one who surrenders himself and denies himself will be reasonably joyful and well-adjusted.
One way of life closes in on you...one opens up everything in an unexpected & awesome way.
Ill take the second one.

 

In my own Protestant education, we were taught to be compassionate, but that compassion was a grace, not a debt. We were taught, based on Paul's writings, that the only thing humanity deserved was death and hellfire. It's a big part of why I left the faith.

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As I said, the self-worship sets it in opposition to my own faith. However, they have a much better view of humanity than what I was taught in my Christian upbringing, and I respect that.

 

So few are Satanists though.

 

I know, and I agree with you on the first point. I don't know what your experiences were, maybe they weren't very good.
I just don't agree with you on the rest.

 

I am, still to this day, baffled by the differences between our relatively close religions. But that it comes from Paul doesn't surprise me: St-Paul is an odd thumb out of the NT, a throwback to the AT's teachings.

 

KJB-Isaiah 5:20-24
20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

22Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

23Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

24Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

 

Satanism does NOT mean what you THINK it means.

Satan worship is NOT worshipping satan. It is worshipping self, as GOD. This self centered philosophy, limped along, till boosted by Ayn Rand.

This Ayn Rand religion, was used to derive the principles of selfishness, that we find comprising the MODERN religion of worshipping self.

All players doing only for self, cannot be the best practice for communal living.

I would back your assertion if it was atheism, or even agnosticism, but NOT satan worship.

To add, Paul Ryan, the compassionate Republican, the SANE Republican, said he worshipped Ayn Rand, and made all who work for him at least read the basis of Satanism.

 

I'm including multiple denominations of Satanism. LaVeyan Satanism of course is more Atheistic or more accurately Auto-deistic, but I also included Luciferian Satanism which does in fact have a deity of sorts at the center and has existed longer so as to have historical relevance for statistics.

 

The problem you note is the innate barbarism of the Abrahamic religions.

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Check the body counts.

 

Compassion without action is worthless, as you point out. This god figure is so compassionate he damned us all to eternal torture if we don't follow his barbaric rules and accept his barbaric rituals.

 

What body counts? Anybody or any nation before Christ, that tried to make war with God, got exactly that. You think God's not going to fight back? No, He will destroy anyone that opposes Him. You want to call it body counts or murder that's up to you.

After Christ He will wait until the great day of judgment. Anybody that does not have their name written in the book of life (everlasting life) shall be cast into the fire. That's what they wanted, not what God wanted.

 

The body counts are in the second post in this thread.

Like I said, a god so compassionate he damned us all to eternal torture for not following his barbaric rules and not accepting his barbaric rituals.

Fight back against whom? Little (*)(*)(*)(*) ant creatures by comparison of himself, which he created. Sounds quite petty, no? Considering also that if you follow the logic of god being omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, then he himself created the dilemma for which he damns humanity.

 

The mouth of the just bringeth forth wisdom: but the froward tongue shall be cut out.

You sit there acting like you have understanding of God's creation. You also act as if God is not of Love.

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

What God would you replace Him with? Will you make up your own God?

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

Wow, how difficult to obey. Might I suggest to you, it's not a good idea to hate God.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

How do you feel when someone curses you? You curse them right back, out of hate and anger. What do you think God will do? He made us in his image.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Look at that, a day of rest.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Would you not want your children to honor you? Is this terrible to you?

6 “You shall not murder.

Don't kill. satan does, so you want to kill people I get it.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

Don't mess around with a married person. Or is that what you prefer. Don't lust over someone in thought, for in your heart you have committed adultery already. This one is rather difficult, and most are guilty. However how is this a terrible law. If everyone did it, there would be much love everywhere.

8 “You shall not steal.

satan wants you to steal. Take anything you want. You are on satan's side so you love to steal from people.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Don't lie in general. But among someone being judged do not bare false witness. Your neighbor is everybody.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

Don't get jealous over what somebody else has, and you do not.

Again I ask you, what's so wrong with any of that. And anything that opposes that, is of satan.

 

1. In the story god left no option but to visit wrath upon the Egyptians. As he took away Pharaoh's free will when he hardened his heart against letting Moses' people go. When you are left with no choice to do the right thing, is it just to be punished for it?

2. This god character is quite the picture of vanity, is it not?

3. That's a human response, I would expect more from a god.

4. Ditto, rest is good. Except for when one is stoned to death for not following it.

5. Teaching that respect is earned while expecting it by mere virtue of birthing you is inconsistent.

6. This god character murdered people by the thousands without blinking an eye. This god character also commanded murder multiple times. How many people did Satan murder?

7. The origination of thought crime.

8. This god character also commanded the act of stealing through murder multiple times.

9. Is it not a lie for this god character to say they gave you free will when they've demonstrated that they can and will take it away from you and then punish you for it?

10. That would destroy Capitalism.

In the bible, god broke multiple of his own commandments, does that make him of Satan?

 

Bumping for Kokomojojo.

 

Unless you count the altar as a body.

I've just finished a book called "God Bless America" by Karen Stollznow and it had a chapter on Satanism. You have to pay to be a member and then you get a red card to carry so you're a card carrying Satanist. They don't have regular church services and rarely meet up. They struck Stollznow as a pretty narcissistic bunch but completely harmless and ethical in their conduct.

 

I meant to say "body count" by the time I noticed the omission, I could no longer edit the post.