Saudi Arabia somewhat responsible for 9/11

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/

    In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, “60 Minutes” last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.

    That’s quite an understatement.

    Actually, the kingdom’s involvement was deliberately covered up at the highest levels of our government. And the coverup goes beyond locking up 28 pages of the Saudi report in a vault in the US Capitol basement. Investigations were throttled. Co-conspirators were let off the hook.

    Case agents I’ve interviewed at the Joint Terrorism Task Forces in Washington and San Diego, the forward operating base for some of the Saudi hijackers, as well as detectives at the Fairfax County (Va.) Police Department who also investigated several 9/11 leads, say virtually every road led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles.

    Yet time and time again, they were called off from pursuing leads. A common excuse was “diplomatic immunity.”

    Those sources say the pages missing from the 9/11 congressional inquiry report — which comprise the entire final chapter dealing with “foreign support for the September 11 hijackers” — details “incontrovertible evidence” gathered from both CIA and FBI case files of official Saudi assistance for at least two of the Saudi hijackers who settled in San Diego.

    Some information has leaked from the redacted section, including a flurry of pre-9/11 phone calls between one of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers in San Diego and the Saudi Embassy, and the transfer of some $130,000 from then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar’s family checking account to yet another of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers in San Diego.


    There's even more in the article that's pretty condemning.

    In short, Afghanistan was just a pawn, and Iraq was just a scapegoat.
     
  2. Margot2

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    The $130,000 was for a Saudi student with 5 children who was attending university in the US.. His wife came down with breast cancer and the money was for food, rent and her medical expenses.. That's also what the phone calls were about..

    I just can't get over these fools.. Saudis in the US often communicate with their embassy and have sine 1950.
     
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    Something is 100% rotten in the state of Denmark. The Pentagon/CIA is hiding stuff, as usual, under the guise of confidentiality.
     
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    Bush hid it not the Pentagon.. Bush and the neocons left if vague to justify the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq..

    There was no "state" player in 9-11.
     
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    ??? The State Department and the Pentagon/Defense Department/CIA are one in the same.

    In this case they act in conjunction with each other.
     
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    Go back and read up on Cheney's none stop visits to the CIA.......
     
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    They protected Bandar and they did revoke diplomatic visas.....which the Saud agreed to.

    An investigator who worked with the JTTF in Washington complained that instead of investigating Bandar, the US government protected him — literally. He said the State Department assigned a security detail to help guard Bandar not only at the embassy, but also at his McLean, Va., mansion.

    The source added that the task force wanted to jail a number of embassy employees, “but the embassy complained to the US attorney” and their diplomatic visas were revoked as a compromise.....snip~
     
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    Pressure on Obama to unseal records pointing to possible Saudi role in Sep 11 attacks
    Monday 18th April, 2016 | WASHINGTON DC - Since September 11 2001 the terrorist attacks of that day have been blamed entirely on Osama bin Ladin and the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.
     
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    Far and far more plausible that actually nothing lead to any government. Do note the Afghan government (Taliban) were willing to hand over Al Qaida. Instead the US attacked Al Qaida, and defeated them in like a week, the rest of them 10 years the US was only busy to install a friendly puppet in Afghanistan while they surveyed the country to see what natural resources they could thieve from them. Same deal in Iraq.

    Nothing but Jewish/Christian neo-colonialism at the expense of 100.000's of muslim lives.
     
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    I don't think that Iraq was a scapegoat or Afghanistan a pawn.

    On the contrary, 9/11 occurred because the US wanted a reason to invade both nations and had, in fact, already laid the plans for these "foreign adventures" prior to 9/11 -- referred to as "a new pearl harbour" in the Wolfowitz Doctrine.

    The fact that the Pentagon's SOCOM and DIA Able Danger programme head was muzzled from giving testimony to Congress and that 2.5 terabytes of data specific to Able Danger covering a two-year period of covert investigations and surveillance prior to 9/11 was ordered destroyed by a senior Pentagon officer speaks for itself.

    That being the case, laying the entire blame of Saudi Arabia simply appears to be a "limited hangout" - which to my mind is why this story is being highlighted now and where it is intended to direct a gullible public mind.

    The reason why, however, is as yet unclear.
     
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    Really Margot? Can you evidence that? Personally, I think there were 3 likely state players involved in 9/11.
     
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    I'm not saying they're totally responsible, but they clearly were complicit.
     
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    names. [BBC News]

    CNN reported that the men who hijacked the aircraft used phony IDs containing the names of real people living in Arab nations in the middle east.


    The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched their own. [Telegraph]

    The FBI says there is no evidence to link the above men to the 9/11 hijackings.


    In September 2002, [FBI Director Robert Mueller] told CNN twice that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers." [Insight]
     
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    Everyone is lying. Only Morgot2 and the Suadis know the truth.



    How foolish do you think the world is? Going to spin and spew propaganda till KSA breathes its last breath.


    The redacted 28 pages is going to go down heavy. Remember that Americans unlike yourself will "never forget". There will be payback and ill will to the guilty KSA forever.
     
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    Then let's press for the 28 pages to be made public..

    The ones who orchestrated 9-11 wanted it to have a Saudi face.
     
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    KSA doesn't want that as you have claimed that they did for years. So what is is it? Will KSA divest because We open the 28 pages and find them guilty or will they punish America for finding them innocent?

    You must be sitting in a chair, because you got no legs to stand on.
     
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    Saudi Arabia does not have a history of dirty tricks, nor a demonstrated ability to carry out such deceptions. More to the point, Saudi Arabia has no motive to attack the United States.

    The Saudi princes have grown very rich indeed through the Petrodollar arrangement. Saudi Arabia buys many American products and weapons ($61 billion in 2011), and unlike Israel, the American taxpayer does not have to give them the money first with which to buy those weapons.

    Whereas Israel constantly takes money out of the US, the Saudis pour it in!

    Private Saudi investment in the US economy is over $400 billion. Saudi Arabia is a major creditor to the US Government. Exact figures are hard to find but Saudi Arabia has loaned the US Government hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Saudi Arabia is not going to risk an attack on the US because all that wealth would vanish. The Saudi wealth inside the US would be frozen or seized, and the outstanding loans to the US would never be repaid. The "useful idiots" trying to save Israel by blaming 9-11 on Saudi Arabia have yet to come up with a motive for the Saudis to do something like 9-11 that risks losing all that cash.


    Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/debunksaudis.php#ixzz46CReSI1O
     
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    Finally. I've been saying this since 2001. Probably earlier. Saudi Arabia is absolutely culpable and should be treated as the terrorist nurturing (*)(*)(*)(*) hole it is.

    I specifically like how they left out very important pieces of the puzzle, like Bandar only being mentioned in passing (despite hundreds of thousands flowing from him to terrorist handlers) and Awlaki not being mentioned at all (Especially his detainment at JFK in 2002 and the shady hand off to a Saudi handler).
     
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    The Saudis had no motive to carry out 9-11.. and no history of false flags or covert ops..

    Whoever did 9-11 wanted the Saudis to be blamed..

    This current effort to blame them is because the families and lawyers want to go after deep pockets.

    - - - Updated - - -

    What did the Saudis have to gain?
     
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    In what?

    Saddam decided to sell his oil for the Euro and that was that? In Afghanistan the gas pipeline was the key to the US's decision to go there, as proved by the geographical of the major allied bases in that country that exactly paralleled the planned pipeline. Not to mentiuon the vast payola that accrues to the so called "defence" industries and the banking fraternity who always take a percentage of those defence contracts for financing them. And I'm not even going to get into the kickbacks and graft that accompanies this entire system.

    My experience is that governments very rarely inform their public of their true motives because they understand that the public wouldn't hold with it. Instead they lie to ensure a willing public backs them. This in the case of Saddam he had to be made a hate figure by the media for his involvement in 9/11 - which we all know was a complete fabrication.

    And so it goes. We limp bloody and wounded from one unwanted war to another all masked and painted with flag-wrapping and emotive reasons, very few of which is ever true. Isn't it time we learned this lesson?
     
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    we should sue the Saudis over 9-11
     
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    That's not evidence of non state participation.

    Besides this, you're wilfully ignoring the Able Danger story so you can pretend Saudi wasn't involved.
     
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    FACT: most of the 19 hijackers were Saudis
     

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