Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen is a tragic blunder

Amazingly I haven't found any discussion of the news from the quite bloody front in middle east

There are discussions of unproven russian aggression to Ukraine, which has already taken Crimea (which is not under rebellions or attempts of ukrainian army to protect the region) and does something strange in Donbass for it is Ukrainian army whiich is destroying Donetsk and Lugansk with its artillery and refuses to take these troops (wearing fascist symbols) back. The discussions are followed with pathetic exclamations, 'rights of people' and other usual rhetorics...
But here is an undisputable case when the people rebelled against the president Jadi, who is an obvious 'not dictator' for he fled not to Russia, but to Saudi Arabia which is famous for its democracy and passionate love to the 'rights of people'. So they invaded the rebellions and for the moment are killing the people who are trying to protect their lives and their freedom. Why don't we discuss it?

Maybe your propaganda spreaders were not paid for it and therefore propaganda eaters don't find the blood of Yemenis that tasty?

BTW is there anyone who really thinks that the US president and EU council would really charge Saudi Arabia and Jadi for the obvious crimes? Let's put it this way. Is there anyone who is eager to bet 10 USD with a promise to pass it to the politicalforum.com that the guilty people will be charged, prosecuted by a western 'tribunal' of any kind?

 

Is not blunder to wage war on Yemen. Is deliberate policy of US/UK/Israeli/Saudi high priests of war.

All part of expanding control and plunder. The US & EU Trotski-ites, Rabbis and Wahabis are all working together to depopulate the world as they have previously stated.

Americans and Europeans are being eliminated and replaced by other populations as evidenced in the EU:

 

Russia is right in fighting for Crimea, and supporting Russian rebels and SA is right in protecting its interests.

 

I think Iran is running out of allies......

 

That so many posters buy and parrot the lies of the Trosky-ites is amazing, and pretend that the kind of people & their mentality that has caused the suffering and deaths of hundreds of millions of people is some sort of virtue that should be worshipped.

 

There have been plenty of threads on the board about Yemen and KSA, you obviously weren't interested.

Yemen has had problems since the early 1960s.. First it was the royalists against the communists.. Now they are home to just about every terrorist group... to include, al Houthis, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, al Shaabab and an assortment of Somali pirates.

KSA has propped Yemen up for decades with food, colleges, gasoline etc.. yet its a failed state without even a passing notion of law and order. Over 500 Yemeni factories closed three years ago.. Their oil industry is in shambles and every sort of suicide bomber is daily trying to get into KSA across the border at Asir.

Yemeni children are in such dire straits that they sneak across the border into KSA to panhandled rather than risk death or starvation in Yemen.... dozens of them every day.

One of my old friends and classmates was at the French Embassy in Yemen for 30 years...

You are either a newbie to what goes on in Yemen or you have an agenda. Which is it?

 

Saudi interests are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up and are not a good comparison to Russia's.

In Yemen, one of the early targets of SA airstrikes was a prison holding hundreds of al-qaeda. They all escaped and ..... surprise, surprise .... have been assisting SA on the ground.

Also, somehow ISIS managed to hit 2 mosques in SA but again, .... surprise, surprise ........ they were both Shia mosques.

Is it just a coincidence that these have both been favorable for Saudi interests?

 

Woogs.. KSA is not assisted by al Qaeda in Yemen.... unless you were talking about South Africa when you wrote "SA"...

Yes , two Shia mosques were hit and that really ticked off the Saudis because the intent was to created sectarian strife.. so in addition to their ongoing battles with AQ over the past 15 years the rounded up 431 ISIS supporters who were running two schools.. one for suicide bombers and the other for bomb builders.

If you are going to pontificate on KSA at least make some effort to get the facts and follow what is going on.

A prison break carried out by airstrike.. Man, those Saudis must be GOOD with surgical strike precision.

 

Destroying (*)(*)(*)(*)es is in SA interests,yes.

 

Margot, whether by design or 'happy coincidence', al-qaeda did escape from prison following an air strike and have been fighting alongside Saudi-backed militias. Next time think twice before accusing me of pontificating.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/al-qaed...-as-saudi-backed-militias-in-yemen-1437087067
Meanwhile, Saudi-backed militias are spearheading efforts to roll back Houthi gains and reinstate the government that the rebels drove into exile in neighboring Saudi Arabia. But they have turned to Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, for help, according to local residents and a senior Western diplomat. This puts the U.S.-allied Gulf kingdom on the same side as one of the world’s most notorious extremist groups.

Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman couldn’t be reached for comment.

 

I must correct myself. It was not due to an airstrike that al-qaeda escaped. It was due to an attack on the prison by al-qaeda in the chaos that has ensued with SA's actions in Yemen.

Otherwise I stand completely by my earlier post.

 

The Saudis didn't call an airstrike on that prison to release AQ.. That's absurd.

KSA has built and funded trade schools, universities and hospitals in Yemen.. Yemen is a lawless, impoverished country and has been since is was a little girl. KSA has provided food, medicine and gasoline to Yemen and invested in job creation and factories,

So trying to paint KSA as the bad guys in this catastrophic mess in rubbish.

 

Did I not correct myself in the post you quoted? Don't use me as a sounding board to peddle your SA apologist bs.

So you wanna refute that al-qaeda is fighting alongside SA-backed militias? I notice you're silent about that.

 

The Saudi wahab regime financed the Israeli take over of the Syrian province of Palestine.
The only reason they are in power is because the British put them in power at the strong behest of the real controllers of Britain.
The Saudis were involved in 9/11, and are subsidizing the terrorists in Iraq and Syria among other locales.
Before the Brits gave them Arabia, the Saudis were just a gang of bandits and religious fanatics.

 

I don't know whether or not Al Qaeda is fighting alongside South African militias, but the aren't fighting alongside Saudis.

 

Oh God Ivan, the Brits had NOTHING to do with the creation of Saudi Arabia.. Nada, zip. They bet on the Sharif of Mecca, Faisal Husseini who had NO following on the Arabian Paninsula that's why TE Lawrence left in disgust after six months.

And the Saudis DID NOT finance the Jewish takeover of Palestine.. That was financed in large by American Zionists who collected money door to door in blue boxes and bought weapons for the Israelis via Argentina.

You need to back up and read some history.. You have it ALL completely wrong.

 

Guess you missed my earlier post. Here it is again.

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/al-qaeda...men-1437087067 Meanwhile, Saudi-backed militias are spearheading efforts to roll back Houthi gains and reinstate the government that the rebels drove into exile in neighboring Saudi Arabia. But they have turned to Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, for help, according to local residents and a senior Western diplomat. This puts the U.S.-allied Gulf kingdom on the same side as one of the world’s most notorious extremist groups.

Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman couldn’t be reached for comment.

 

No.. woogs.. I did catch it finally.. People write so much crap about KSA , but the truth is that their leadership is both ethical and benevolent.. and they have demonstrated that consistently for over 70 years.

They don't want terrorists (or Iran) on the Arabian Peninsula or in their back yards.. and they have held back for a long time.. The war in Yemen is unfortunate, but necessary.

Name the local residents or the senior Western Diplomat.

 

How can you compare the one with the other. Russia is not the one bombing and killing the people of Kiev and Lviv. It's the illegal junta occupants of Kiev that are killing the Russian people in the Donbas. ..and had Russia not responded to Crimea's plea for help, it would have suffered a similar fate. In both cases Russia had a humanitarian obligation to help the people.

Saudi Arabia in contrast is the exact opposite. They are not conducting themselves like Russia and helping the Yemini people preserve their lives, but rather they are acting like the criminals in charge in Kiev, and killing people indiscriminately. ..which doesn't say much for them. I see Saudi Arabia's actions and the actions of the junta government in Kiev as genocide.

 

Hitting mosques in Saudi Arabia that just happen to be Shia, reminds me of the terrorist attack in Turkey, where the people just happened to be Kurds.

 

And here's a few excerpts about the KSA 'good guys' from Moon of Alabama:

The Cruel And Aimless War On Yemen

The situation for the people in Yemen is catastrophic. Doctors Without Borders, which has experience from many war zones, says it is the worst conflict they ever worked in.

The theocratic family dictatorship of Saudi Arabia, with U.S. support, is relentlessly bombing the country and blockading it from all urgently needed supply for the people. The declared aim of the war is to reinstate the Saudi/U.S. selected President Hadi. But no one in Yemen wants Hadi back. He now would not survive there even one day. The UN warns of the danger of mass starvation..."

"...Between 1962 and 1970 Egypt fought a war in Yemen against predominately Yemeni forces. Some 25,000 of its soldiers were killed in that war. I expect that the current U.S. supported invasion of Yemen, like the Egyptians, will get bogged down within a month or two.

Meanwhile many Yemeni civilians will silently die from lack of access to water, food and medicine...."​

What ever happened to democracy and will of the people, or is it just a word to throw around whenever Washington wants a regime change?

 

What ever happened to democracy and will of the people. .


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When have such terms as, Democracy or "will of the people" been employed in any
American deployment these last two plus decades!

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The invasion started days ago. I mean when there is a political or economical trouble and a street riot is taking over a president it is quite possible to discuss who is right and who is wrong and to share different opinions, but that is one kind of a talk. When a state invades another. Openely. With artillery and bombs etc... It is quite a different conversation. It is actually a crime. There should have been alarms on the news everywhere. And the forum should have had at least as much topics as it has about Malasia Airlines. For some reason it hasn't happened. It didn't work.

I have almost got tears in my eyes. Almost. They were such a generous people. Before... But that is not an explanation and an excuse for the war.

One of the forumists promoted me to a position of KGB director yesterday. Hopefully I will receive my agenda from him today.

 

Moon of Alabama is no better informed than you are. But, FYI Egypt fought on the side of the Communists in Yemen between 1962 and 1970... The Saudis fought for the royalists... Egypt was busy in Yemen when the Israelis attacked them in 1967.

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They have been fighting for months.. It isn't about the Yemeni president.. Its about the al Houthis in the north and Al Qaeda in the south.