The Saudis never liked Obama, they despised him. ....“The GCC countries are not only excited about Trump, but the people he’s chosen to have around him,” said Alibrahim, who dismissed Obama as “the worst president ever,” unwilling to confront Iran and its Shiite Muslim proxies in Syria and neighboring Yemen, whom the Sunni leaders of the Gulf see as rivals. It definately matters whom is the US president.
The did like Obama.. and they are keenly away of the delicacy of the Iran situation and what the US was trying to manage.
Trump was invited back next year, whereas Obama never was. ....“Trump is a welcome change from Barack Obama because he does not remind them, does not pressure them, about American values and ideas about human rights and democracy. This president is a hardcore realist: He just doesn’t care. This goes well with many leaders in this part of the world" Obama was crap as far Saudi Arabia was concerned.
No he wasn't of the Royal family nor did he get money from the SAG. OBL's family was from Yemen. He father was a successful contractor/developer who had 56 sons. OBL's mother was divorced shortly after his birth and he was raised mostly in Syria. His siblings considered him the black sheep.
Trump has shown that he has zero care for human rights and praises murderous dictators while insulting allies. Which other idiot says that they woud be "honored" to meet Kim Jong Un? And how far up dictator Putin's arse is he actually? I guess we will soon find out.
Which is exactly why Trump signed this arms deal. If it wasn't so sick, it would be funny. We sell the Saudi's arms, the Saudi's fund the terrorists, then we make more business off the tax payer to keep a bloated military industrial complex by making war with the very people who got their hands on these weapons that the Saudi's sold or gave to them. Case in point, Saddam Hussein. We make the mustard and the Sarin gas, Hussein kills his own people, then we make war with Saddam over the very weapons we sold him. And here's the bad part. Thousands of our own get killed, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of other innocent lives that are lost for nothing, all for the sake of a money making enterprise. War is business. And that's what this deal with the Saudi's was this weekend. And what do the supporters of this murdering enterprise do? They look the other way.
There is no argument. That is the whole point. You just invented one by holding the money deal between the U.S. and Iran hostage as leverage against the Iranians developing nuclear capability. The transaction between the two countries years ago has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear ambitions. You can make that case forever if you like, but it doesn't change reality. The reality is, you don't know, nor does anyone else know what exactly they are spending their money on, and it is not for us to decide. It's not our money, it never was, and it never will be. You do not understand simple logic.
Did you criticize Obama's arms deal with Saudi Arabia? Obama administration arms sales offers to Saudi top $115 billion: report http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-security-idUSKCN11D2JQ
It's immoral to give the money back to the Iranians. That is the entire point. And that is the reality. How many have died as a result of Iran's use of the money to fund global terrorism ?? It is completely illogical to give the money back to Iran.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...ood-day-for-the-president-and-for-the-u-s.php The speech is excellent. Trump’s approach to the Muslim world in this speech aligns, in general terms, with his approach to other less than friendly world actors. As with China, to name one, Trump eschews past hostile rhetoric and assumes (or pretends to) the best in the hope of securing assistance in meeting U.S. objectives. If he doesn’t secure it, all bets are off. Frankly, the Muslim leaders Trump addressed in Saudi Arabia are probably a decent bet — better than China and certainly better than the Russia and the Palestinian leaders. Many of the Muslims nations in question are under serious duress and have a stake in cooperating with the U.S. Trump began the substantive portion of his speech by emphasizing that stake. He noted that “the innocent people of Arab, Muslim and Middle Eastern nations. . .have borne the brunt of the killings and the worst of the destruction in [the] wave of fanatical violence” inflicted by “Islamist extremism and the Islamist terror groups it inspires.” He added that the vast, untapped potential of the Middle East “is held at bay by bloodshed and terror” inflicted by such extremism and terrorism. These propositions are difficult to deny. More at the link.
What is interesting about this speech is that it could have been given by President Obama. Or Hillary Clinton. The sentiments addressed in the speech represent established American doctrine. Do you know who could NOT have given this speech? Candidate Trump. This speech represents a dramatic shift from the sentiments he expressed while campaigning. It demonstrates that he has no principles at all. He has no core beliefs (other than "look out for number one"). On any given day he will say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. And he has no compunction about saying something completely different tomorrow, in front of a different audience. Trump supporters: During the campaign - "We support Trump! We want a Muslim ban!" Now - "We support Trump! Islam is one of the world's great faiths!" Trump supporters are now praising him for his practical approach and reversing the language he used during the campaign. In effect, they are praising him for having lied during the campaign, and for having now adopted the Obama / Clinton position of engagement and persuasion.
You just wrote the recipe for the alternate universe folks like you and Trump push for us to live in, which is the same recipe that keeps us in trouble with the ME, and is the same recipe that will continue to keep us in trouble. It's the same recipe that set up the war with Iran and Iraq, the two wars we had with Iraq, the war with Afghanistan, and it set us up for ISIS. We created this recipe for continued turmoil in the ME for the sake of the military industrial complex, with these weapons deals. That is the recipe Trump wrote yesterday in his speech.
We always knew that Trump was transnational rather than ideological, that is why we laughed when others claimed he was a dangerous ideologue. Trump made it clear that if these Gulf States want US help with security, they damn well are going to get their wallets out. And as they were getting their wallets out, he said some very nice things to them. And yes, we are fine with that. He is a businessman accustom to voluntary transactions rather than impositional exactions, and yes, we are fine with that. That is why we elected him. This is the proper way for a Free Sovereign People to interact with the world.
