Science in the Bible---that only prove Bible is the words of our Creator!!!

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  1. lynx

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    How come Bible know the earth is round and hanging in the space without any support more than 2000 years ago, when people still believed the earth was flat with four corners?

    The answer is obvious.......

    1) The Bible has already stated that the earth is round more than 2000 years ago, 1,500 years before Eratosthenes of Alexandria was born contains the exact same information.

    Isaiah 40:21 & 22 "Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."

    Isaiah understood that God sits above the "circle of the earth" or as could be translated "globe".

    2)Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing."
    Job understood the idea that the earth is suspended in space.

    3)Job 26:10 "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end."
    Job also understood the movement of the sun and moon in circular patterns.

    4)Proverbs 8:27 "When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,"
    The word circle here is translated from a phrase that is applied to the curvature of the horizon when on the open ocean. This is the same physical evidence used by the greeks some 1,000 years later to make their own observations about a round earth.
     
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    These are just some I find, if anyone can find more scientific contents in Bible, please share.
     
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    More than 2000 years ago, Eratosthenes calculated the CIRCUMFERENCE of the Earth, the angle the Earth is tilted on its Axis as well as the distance between the Earth and Sun. My understanding is that none of that information is contained in the bible. Additionally, the Earth revolves around the sun in an elliptical pattern not a circular one and the Earth does not "hang on nothing" in space. The notion that a few vagueries contained in the bible- which are only marginally congruent with modern science- constitutes proof of a creator requires quite a bit of faith.
     
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    The Bible also claims that the Earth is fixed rather than moving. Whoopsies..

    The faithful read the Bible in whatever way suits their faith, unfortunately. It's a flat-earth book.
     
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    Fundamentalists are an embarrassment to Christianity. The Bible isn't a scientific book and never has been, your movement is fringe and more like a cult than anything else.
     
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    The Old Testament dates was written over a period of at least 1,000 years, beginning possibly around 1500 B.C. Genesis may be the compilation of writings dating back much further, and that could increase the age to the time of Abraham (2000 B.C.), or even Noah (2500 B.C.) or even Adam (4,000 B.C.).

    The last Old Testament writings occurred close to 500 B.C. and the Sieve of Eratosthenes was created in the 3rd century BC by Eratosthenes. The Bible is at least couple more thousand years eariler than Eratosthenes to know the earth is round and hanging in the air.

    You lose
     
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    There is more lynx. Do you have it?
     
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    Where did Bible stated that the earth is fixed and flat?
     
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    Not yet, how about you? It will be cool if any one of us can find more!

    This is our little victory....right now.....right here.....the table is turning.......

    :)
     
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    Fool, of course the Bible isn't a scientific book to teach you all science. God isn't here to teach you advance stuffs when you are still rebel against him. You have to earn your reward first.
     
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    No it can't. I've educated you on this before. Hebrew has a word for "ball, sphere, or globe". That word is specifically NOT USED. The word used is the word for "circle" meaning the flat round shape. The Bible is saying that the Earth is flat.

    The sun does not move in a circular pattern.
     
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    ... Unless we count maybe its orbit around the galactic center :D

    Lynx, listen to reason here. The biblical authors had no clue about what the Earth, moon, sun, planet and stars all were, but they had their models to try and explain them. They thought that Earth was something fixed and unmoving while all those things they saw moving moved about the Earth.

    "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
    - NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5
     
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    Science in the bible? Good grieve. Christians are not Muslims and the bible is not the Quran. The christian religion leaded as the greek religion to the renaisssance of the ancient greek scientific culture. The greek culture is the root for modern sciences and not the bible. Aristotle for example was always one of the most important christian philosophers. His commentator Averröes was very important for Christians. Background: Truth is always true. I would say modern universities are not thinkable without Aristotle and Averröes. Both were not christians - but the christian religion as the european mainstream was nevertheless the key to open the way in a better world of reasonable behavior.

    http://youtu.be/McWqNGagfUE
     
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    Didn't they believe in a geocentric universe?
     
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    Who? Aristotle and Ibn Rushd? Is this important?

    http://youtu.be/iVGmNGAMq8A
     
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    LOL. You educate me?? I hardly believe you are Hebrew expert. NO. Hebrew didn't have word for ball, sphere or globe when the author wrote down that scripures. It only had circle to represent anything that is round including a ball. The author just didn't have the exact right word for it. But he understand the earth is round just like a ball.

    But earth and moon do.
     
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    But they have clues about the earth is round and hanging in the space when people still thought the earth is flat, square with 4 corners. Fact is fact, admit it, the Bible is the words of God, there are no other explaination why the authors know all these modern science except it is a book directly inspired by our Creator.

    Except the earth is self moving, where the earth is going to move to? Have the earth move out of solar system yet?
     
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    Has Quran mentioned the earth is round and hanging in the space like the Bible?
     
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    the earth and moon looked like circles... common sense folks

    the bible also talks about two light sources, the sun and the moon, they both looked like they were light sources back then

    the bible included the scientific beliefs at the time, no more, no less

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    Except the Earth is not "hanging in space." As a matter of fact, it's in a continual motion of falling, which is what an orbit is. The biblical scribes imagined a "fixed" Earth that was circular but flat, and the center of all things. It's the plain and simple truth, and congruent with the cosmologies of ancient Israel's influential neighbors in Babylon and Egypt, and undoubtedly elsewhere. Before people started working out that the Earth is indeed curved, and therefore round, as Eratosthenes did because of the lengths of shadows cast at noon being different at different latitudes, they imagined this:

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    Picture this version of the cosmos when you read biblical passages talking about the Earth and the heavenly bodies, and you'll see that it all fits like a glove. You're torturing your mind trying to keep an ancient myth 'true' in the modern day.
     
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    Well-stated, though I'm not sure you'd want to call the views scientific, given that they had no scientific method and tied a lot of myth and religion in with what they did observe and guess.
     
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    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_...e_like_a_coin_or_a_sphere_Isaiah_C40_verse_22

    The Hebrew word for ball is "Dur". The word for circle is "Chug". Chug is used in the passage that mentions "the circle of the Earth". Later on in Isiah, Dur is used in a passage about throwing a ball.

    You are completely wrong. The author did have a word for ball or sphere and knew the difference between the two. He specifically used the word meaning "a flat circle like a coin".

    The Bible falsely proclaims a flat Earth.
     
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    Lynx has twice referred to people thinking the earth was flat and had four corners. Ezekiel 7:2, Isaiah 11:12, and other verses of the old testament are the source of the four corners error. Globes and circles do not have corners.
     
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    Author? I thought you believed that God is the author.
     

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