Scientism the Newest Religion and How it Effects Society.

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  1. jrr777

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    For the intelligent mind, it is blatantly clear that those of "science" are merely presenting their very own religion (scientism), and deceiving many! On a path of total onslaught of the free individual mind.



    Evolution requires the Big Bang or Heliocentric model, the Heliocentric model requires creation from nothing. All in which require supreme faith, belief, or "religion". None can be proven. And the priests of these religions openly call for the mocking, ridiculing, and non-stop aggression towards any who oppose such beliefs, they also say to do so, "in public".

    In turn creating a peoples that mock and ridicule those of Christianity for simply believing a "religion", when they themselves have been conditioned to do just that. Though in a deceiving and sinister way, so complex they feel it's not a belief, rather the "truth". Completely destroying the individual free thought and soul, and replacing it with that of their own.

    There is clearly an agenda from these "astronomical priests". Only those of ignorance would be unable to see it, so indoctrinated they have no mind of their own, for it has been taken from them.

    The Truman Show; "We accept the reality in which we are presented".



    I would suggest for anybody to watch the Science Channel's video titled, "The Principal". I was going to post it, but apparently it's still not free.

    http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/
     
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    The only christians ridiculed are those who use religion to tell everyone the earth is flat and 6000 yrs old.
    They need to be ridiculed, for they are fools.
     
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    Matthew 5:22King James Version (KJV)
    22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    Religion is dead.
     
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    All Christians who approve of the following verses that are so barbaric that they imply that even GANDHI should be tortured/alive should be "ridiculed"!


    John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"

    Acts 4:12, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-10, John 3:18, John 10:27-28, Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8, John 5:2, John 3:36, John 6:47, Acts 16:31, Romans 10:9, Revelation 19:20, 20:10,14-15, 21:8, John 15:6: Jesus said “Unless a person remains united with me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up. Such branches are gathered and thrown into the fire, where they are burned up."

    Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50 - The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Mark 9:43, 48-49 - And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire.

    Matthew 22:13 - Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 8:12 - while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 25:46 - And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

    Revelation 14:9-11; 19:3 - If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.

    Luke 12:5 - But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!
     
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    Please enlighten us as to which "intelligent minds" believe the following insanity:
    A talking donkey
    A talking snake
    A talking burning bush
    A talking invisible dead guy who lives up in an invisible bigoted country club in the sky who will magically let you survive your own death in said bigoted country club if you simply - get this - just BELIEVE in him.
     
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    Uh, if science requires a belief system couldn't it be said that: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts? :nod:
     
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    Actually, you just lied. Now for you and I, sure, it is dead. But we are not everyone, right? How many christians, jews, muslims, hindus, buddhists, Taoists, are left in this world? So, clearly, you lied. Right? Admit it, and we shall move on.

    But in reference to the OP, sure, some people in science push forth atheism, and if believing in science, even as tentative as it has historically been, is Scientism, well, I guess so. And to listen to some of these guys, like Dawkins, or Harris and Bennett, they do sound as if they are trying to be the high priests of Scientism, and want to replace the other priests. Whether they will admit to that or not, for if you listen to them talk, this does seem to be apparent.

    Yet, I am all in support of science. Yet science deals with the material universe, in trying to understand it well enough to make predictions and manipulate it for our own benefit, or our own demise. What lies outside of this material universe, and whether anything lies outside of it is completely outside of the realm of science. So, when such men of science negate that anything can lie outside of this universe, this is little more than idiocy, and arrogance. For they cannot measure it, and yet that is no evidence that something does not exist outside of what they can measure. And so, this is where philosophy comes in, and science is moot. And philosophy is very old and has a very high tradition.
     
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    as a matter of fact, ignorance drives science so that could be said to be true.

    Are you at all familiar with the scientific method?
     
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    Still very ALIVE and kicking, you are right - but it's FUTURE is dead, it's about to fall - will fall faster than sexual harassers are falling (falling like flies!) today - Lauer, Garrison Keiler, etc.!! Religions approve of sexual harassment, mal-treatment of gays, etc., so it's only a matter of time before people become intellectually consistent and say to themselves "wait a tick, if we fire Matt Lauer shouldn't we fire Moses and Mohammad (both rapists) as well!?"

    Time is on our side.
     
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    Ah, you mean like Narnia, Middle Earth, Neverland, etc.? Got it.
     
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    I would say, yes.
     
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    I am not here to argue or try and force you to believe. Nor am I here to make fun of those who don't. That's the behavior of the unfaithful, and unrighteous. Please continue your name calling, for it only reveals what comes with no faith.
     
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    I don't have "faith" because I look towards "facts", because I believe that science is better than Jesus' magic/fear/superstition.
     
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    I'm certainly never about FORCING someone to believe my own point of view, either.
     
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    I doubt it, I really do. Religion will always exist for as long as man questions, "why" and so on. One can even see a new religion arising today with these UFO groups, who claim to have been in contact with higher beings, the gods of the greeks and other groups. And I have watched this grow over the last decades. And given the nature of the good ETs, and the tremendous power they are said to have, there is little difference between them and gods. I am not saying that I believe they exist, but there are growing numbers of people that do, and some of those people are in gov't and very high positions, which one can see if you watch that Tom DeLong announcement, with his panel of retired imminent scientists, DOD people and CIA people. The CIA chap, name Semivan, is even an experiencer, along with his wife, from an ET abduction. So these dudes are serious in their beliefs.

    So, you see something that looks like a new religion in the process of arising. Some of these supposed ETs have even spoken of what they call the "ONE" which the abductees say is some kind of God. SO, I would not count religion out as you do. Anyways, science can never actually negate a God, for if one exists, it exist outside of this material universe and is impossible for science to measure. And as long as man has no real way to KNOW the truth of this, religion isn't going anywhere. IMO of course.
     
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    My guess is that's because when one believes in talking donkeys, etc. that they tend to LOSE when they argue in debates...but I could be wrong.
     
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    KJV- Isaiah 47:13
    Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

    1 Timothy 6:20King James Version (KJV)
    20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

    If it has the word "science", according to you, it's true. According to you "scientists" do not have the ability to lie or deceive. I wish you well with that.
     
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    In a time when physicists are talking of other dimensions, other universes, I am not so sure your ridicule is that intelligent? lol
     
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    If your going to use it, you should get it right, it's called, "theoretical physicists".
     
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    Yep, yep - that's why I just converted to SCIENTology - the only one true religion obviously!! :)
     
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    I can't stand how people on this site and others alike, will constantly take one thing said out of an entire paragraph, or even short sentences, and make an argument opposing it, as if that's what was meant and all that was said. Post the entire thing, or nothing at all. Highlight in red or any color that which you oppose or disagree with. In doing so, others can see what was really said.
     
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    You are of course correct. Theoretical, for now. And it may never pan out, but then again, we shall have to wait to see. RIght?
     
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    That makes sense.
     
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    It's all theoretical, and will never be proven. Mankind will never be able to create the heavens, earth, and everything therein. For theoretical physicists to know everything, would require them to be able to create the creation in which we live. A fantasy, a propagated lie, that is only made to exalt themselves above the rest of mankind. These people (scientists) are no more special or intelligent than you or I. They have all been on a journey in which proves there is no God. Yet the more they try, the more they reveal the truth of the matter. After the lies become so great, the truth digs down, and plucks them from the root. And all lies attached to the root of the lies, are then destroyed. And all that are involved with the lie/lies, well, "you will know them by their fruits".
     
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