Scientist who said climate change sceptics proved wrong accused of hiding truth

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They just keep trying to push their fraud don't they? I can't really blame them, there are hundreds of thousands of salaries hanging in the balance. When the truth comes out that the Earth warms and cools on it's own schedule, not because of anything man is doing besides deforestation, they will have to run for their lives. I can't wait for the day they were the scarlet letter.
     
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    He did not hid the truth. He lied through his teeth.
     
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    OMG, the consiracy reinvents itself. BTW, that BEST graph purports a biblical drop in temperature all the while 2010 set records in heat.
    Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Northern_Hemisphere_summer

    I swear the more RWs attempt to explain science the less and less I respect their viewpoints, because it is clear that science and data is not their passion.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you post a link to the global warming is a direct result of man made activity?
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Get real, web search "global warming is a direct result of man made activity" and you will get 1.6M links.

    Peabody, don't get obtusely naive.
     
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    10 years of flat temperature readings says a lot about the climate.
     
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    I'll take that as a NO you can't prove global warming is man made. Thanks!
     
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    Letterman to take part in show about climate change...
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    David Letterman to Take Part in Series About Climate Change
    September 17, 2015 — David Letterman will return to TV next year to help draw attention to the effects of climate change when he appears on an episode of "Years of Living Dangerously."
     
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    Uncle Ferd suspects that's what been making Granny so goofy here lately...
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    Activist Says Climate Change Affects Bodies, Brains, Too
    September 18, 2015 | Pope Francis has said a “revolution” is needed to combat climate change. While the pope is in Washington, addressing the U.S. Congress on September 24, a "Moral Action for Climate Justice" rally will take place on the National Mall to address the climate crisis.
     
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    Oh my, science by Googlefoo.

    This is real popular now. After all, the all important Paris conference is coming up.

    Hiatus revisionism

     
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    I can not wait till all these deniers live in a world were they realize that nothing can be done to our cities that lay close or on the coast and see that our human activity on this earth caused a tremendous amount of damage that can not be reversed.
     
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    USA government agencies NOAA and NASA independently publish very similar information depicting temperature rise since 1950 accelerating in recent decades.

    Please demonstrate how you will prove them wrong.

    Below charts from 4 different agencies.

    annual_temperature_anomalies_2014.png
     
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    That's a rather morbid outlook, one who cant wait for irreversible damage to our planet...
     
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    I googled "being gay is a choice" and got 112,000,000 results in 0.19 seconds... its amazing how fast google is with so much data... so does this mean being gay really is a choice since I got results? or would people dispute that? so I googled "being gay is not a choice" and got 128,000,000 results in 0.21 seconds... its amazing how fast google is with so much data... so does this mean being gay really is not a choice since I got results? or would people dispute that?

    see how that works... I can guaranty almost any result and google proof you want for anything... just change the search terms and suddenly google finds you someone who agrees, and a lot of them...
     
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    gee using your proof, what were we doing in the 1800s that eventually declined global warmth so much... and 1940 to 1980 we really slid sideways... wasn't that the giant manufacturing and energy boom in the world, yet we don't seem to have dramatically risen in temperature then, I would have expected it to explode back then? manufacturing has really declined since the 1980s in america right? so whats causing all this?

    when I overlap a co2 emissions chart on that chart, it doesn't seem to match up very well, especially when we look at the dip in the late 1800s... that chart should gradually be going up on a steady incline like the co2 chart, yet they seem to differ...

    so I take this a step further, when I overlap other charts such as vehicle emissions, which are on a sharp downward trend I might add, that doesn't seem to match up with the charts either? so vehicle emissions are decreasing so that can't be it either... (not to mention fuel consumption is way down on vehicles)

    so I started thinking, well if those things alone aren't doing it, it must be a combined increase of all resources combined worldwide with the massive insane population growth we have now right... that sounds logical... and I come across this chart below... showing fuel sources and emissions as a result...

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    okay so now we got something!!!

    but then I look at your chart again... and I overly this chart... and dangit all... they just don't match up... look at those dips, and those sideways trends... and when we compare the emissions by source and overall... it just doesn't follow the same pattern... so what the heck is going on here... is it perhaps not co2 emissions? so maybe our pollution is just a coincidence and not actual evidence, otherwise your chart and my chart would be almost identical right...

    how do we explain the difference???

    especially the 1940 to 1980 period... I mean we were sideways for temperature, yet emissions and consumption EXPLODED... we should be like a thousand degrees warmer by now or something... but... we're just not... your chart shows that during our explosion of use, temperature remained the same for almost 4 decades... so here we are, almost 4 decades later from that point too right, and we've almost DOUBLED the amount of emissions since then... yet the last few years, temperature has gone down?!?! woah wait how is that even possible... we double the amount we did from that last 4 decade period where nothing happened when we quadrupled our emissions... so we doubled a quadruple and we're now falling in temperature? or at least leveling off if we give it some time to show us how it feels?

    please help explain all this... whats causing the increased temperature if its not the co2 emissions like I've been told the last couple decades???

    educate me... clearly I don't get it...
     
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    When I hear the liberals say that there is global warming but there's nothing we can do about it and white people don't have to give any money to brown people to make it better I might pay a little more attention to their statistics. Until then, it's bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Independent? They use the same dataset. Hardly independent.
     
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    The job of science is to disprove an hypothesis. So far AGW is an unproven hypothesis based on models that cannot and have not been validated. With the Paris meeting coming up (COP21) and looking to be a failure the nuts are coming out of the woodwork. I predicted earlier that you will see more ridiculous claims leading up to it and I have been proven right, from the danger of giant mosquitos to abusing the RICO statutes to prosecute scientists actually doing their job to the new denial, the denial that the pause ever existed (after predicting that it would not last).

    You can't make this stuff up (well, someone actually is) but then one who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived.
     
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    Wouldn't they all be dead and gone a couple of centuries prior?
     
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    climate change is settled science now. those that fight it only do so by creating their own reality.
     
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    Vampires exist there is 90,200,000 links on google!!! /facepalm
     
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    The climate has always and always will change.. Stop trying to use terms that you are clueless about.
     
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    keep trying but settled science is still settled science.
     
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    Yes it is "settled" that the climate changes.. No one is debating that.. Keep trying to actual debate something perhaps luck will be on your side.
     
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    Channelling Al Gore. Cute.
     
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