Scientist who worked at Wuhan lab says COVID was man-made virus

Discussion in 'Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions' started by Lil Mike, Dec 4, 2022.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,710
    Likes Received:
    13,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "China is Guilty"

    China "can't" be guilty in this little "Who done it" - least not on its own .. of the crime of creating this virus. and highly doubtful they released it on purpose .. no motive .. and in hindsight China has been most hurt by the release virus.

    Pick again fella's There were something like 20 or so nations involved in this research .. a search for the "Holy Grail" of sorts ... and only 2 labs in the world certified to do it .. Wuhan being on of those labs. Like for Smallpox .. research on particular bugs is kept to a small number of labs .. "For a Reason" :) har har har.

    And we know why did the crime ... they told us Straight up... Since nasty virus can jump species .. gonna enable the virus to jump .. but not let it infect people .. and study it ..so that should it jump on its own and infect people in furture .. we will already have a cure.

    And so we said . go ahead .. do the crime .. just not in the USA .. where this kind of research was not allowed .. researchers/companies allowed to do this work .. just not in US-Lab.

    Now clearly I did the time ... figuring this out for ya'll .. now tell me who did the crime ... cause I sure as heck don't know .. and wasn't China.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,951
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its a finger pointing contest now.
    The US funded it!
    Fauci was involved.
    It was lab born and bred.
    They created a chimera virus.
    The NIH claims that wuhan was supposed to immediately stop the experiment if there was any possibility of transfering to humans and report it to them.
    Alliance claims they did report it, but they did not discontinue the experiment which were admittedly done under unnecessarily dangerous and high risk conditions by using 'humanized mice'.
    The scientists involved are trying to dodge the bullet claiming this is not molecularly possible, arguing they could not have created this. CYA at its finest.
    They claim they did not violate any gain-of-function (gof) laws while simultaneously admitting they created a chimera virus. :roll:
    Take note of who/what just happens to be most susceptible:

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    amazing coincidence! simply amazing!

    doesnt this just make us all feel warm and cozy knowing it could happen again?
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2022
  3. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wow. You couldn't tell? *LOL*
     
  4. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    14,619
    Likes Received:
    10,654
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No way they will investigate it. It’s US funds that created it. Why would they drive a nail through their own foot?
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  5. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, there's no "finger pointing" over a guy who never set foot in China or worked with that lab. The conspiracy tinfoil hat kooks are the only ones "pointing fingers" because they think Huff's BS substantiates one of their conspiracy theories.

    https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/scientist-did-not-work-at-wuhan-lab

    The headline of the article published by the Herald Sun on Facebook on December 4, 2022, reads: “Scientist who worked at Wuhan lab says Covid was man-made virus”.

    The claim is reiterated in the precede of the article which states: “A controversial scientist who worked at the Wuhan lab has branded Covid-19 one of the “greatest cover-ups in history”.

    The story, originally published online in the UK’s tabloid newspaper, The Sun, on December 3, 2022, refers to a book written by scientist Dr Andrew Huff.

    Dr Huff’s book, The Truth About Wuhan published on December 5, 2022, repeats the unproven lab-leak theory that a man-made coronavirus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Social media users have shared the Herald Sun story across various platforms to support conspiracy theories. They have also created memes featuring its claim that Dr Huff worked at the Wuhan lab, garnering thousands of likes and shares.

    But Dr Huff himself has declared that he has never worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.


    In a televised interview aired by Fox News on December 7, 2022, the Fox News presenter introduces Dr Huff as “a scientist who actually worked inside the Wuhan lab”. Dr Huff replies: “There’s one thing I’d like to clear up here real quickly, I never stepped foot in China, I never actually worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

    Between 2014 and 2016, Dr Huff worked for the US-based scientific research group, EcoHealth Alliance. He was hired as a senior research scientist, before a change of title to associate vice president in 2015, EcoHealth Alliance told RMIT FactLab in an email.

    In 2014, EcoHealth Alliance was awarded a grant by the US government's National Institutes for Health to study the risk of future coronaviruses developing from bats. On his website, Dr Huff describes himself as an “EcoHealth Alliance insider” who knows the “real how and why COVID emerged”.

    Following the publication of Dr Huff’s book, EcoHealth Alliance issued a statement on December 5 rejecting reports that he had worked at the Wuhan lab.

    “Mr Huff was employed by the EcoHealth Alliance from 2014 to 2016,” the EcoHealth statement said. “However, reports that he worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology during that time are untrue. He was assigned to a completely different project working on computer-based algorithms to assess emerging disease threats."

    The statement continues: “Mr Huff makes a number of other speculations and allegations about the nature of the collaboration between EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Given that he never worked at or with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, his assertions along these lines cannot be trusted.”
     
  6. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh, but keep grasping at straws.
     
  7. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, it's not. Claims like this must be based upon discoverable FACTS. HuffnPuff didn't work at or even with the lab. He's not basing his claims upon anything factual. He's trying to make some moolah, pure and simple.
     
    Durandal likes this.
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    56,389
    Likes Received:
    28,049
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's sad how the same people keep falling for the same tactics. Someone writes a fiction book under the guise of non-fiction, publishes some headline-grabbing kooky claims that go on to make the rounds on social media (and often enough end up getting posted to this forum), and the author rakes in sales from some percentage of the paranoiacs who see this crap and fall for it. When he's ready to rob fools of more $$$, the author will undoubtdly come up with more BS and market it the same way.
     
    Nemesis likes this.
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,951
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    NOT what I was talking about. We have proof by FOIA, dont even need "a guy".
    So fauci had to be physically at the lab in china for the US to fund and orchestrate these GOF experiments?
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2022
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    54,992
    Likes Received:
    51,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you believe the virus evolved and erupted from a wet market in China right?

    You naturally assume that's a fact because that's what they told you right?
     
    crank likes this.
  11. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The tinfoil hat theory of "The Chinese did it!!" is the subject of this thread. And you apparently believe a guy who never set foot in China and did NOT even work with the lab on this issue.

    Wow.
     
  12. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    54,992
    Likes Received:
    51,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Tell me you believe the official story without just telling me that...
     
  13. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    27,675
    Likes Received:
    15,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And.....naturally you believe what you are being told. You are here proving that fact.

    Or are you investigating things on your own?
     
  14. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    29,028
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Funded by the NIH and the Fauci folks grants. This is abhorrent. It essentially validates what so many of us have suggested as the set of facts about the genesis of the virus since around 2019.

    Given that this was initially approved by the Obama administration, and the grants were extended then, it seems we should begin the painful reconning vis a vis, mr Obama and his monstrous policy.
     
  15. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    54,992
    Likes Received:
    51,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't necessarily believe anything but I'm sure as hell skeptical of the official story.
    I know for a fact that you believe it 100%
     
  16. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    27,675
    Likes Received:
    15,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course you are. That is what you have been told.

    For a fact? What makes your assumption a fact?

    As usual, you are not making any sense.

    No one knows for 100% certainty where exactly any virus originated from. Scientists have studied HIV, for example, and came up with an educated explanation, but there is no way to know for 100% if its totally accurate, and same is true with any virus.

    Is it possible for humans to create a virus, which is capable of replicating itself ans spread from human to human? Scientists say it would be extremely difficult, and if anyone succeeds it would be due to pure luck.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2022
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2009
    Messages:
    23,951
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    we have covid, what a lucky coincidence
     
  18. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    27,675
    Likes Received:
    15,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are 219 virus species that are known to be able to infect humans. What a lucky coincidence. Of wait, - none of them are man-made.
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  19. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, because unlike the *********** in the OP, Fauci had resources to rely on. The claim was that HuffnPuff "worked in the Wuhan lab". He didn't. He didn't even work WITH the Wuhan lab.

    So, what is HuffnPuff basing his claims on?
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2022
  20. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is the "official story"?
     
  21. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    54,992
    Likes Received:
    51,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What you believe on faith.
     
  22. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,484
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not nearly as "wow" as believing it just happened to evolve right next to a lab specifically built to research Corona viruses. In fact that's about the most tinfoil belief, when it comes to this thing.
     
    Lil Mike and FatBack like this.
  23. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    54,992
    Likes Received:
    51,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The high priest Dr fauci told you where it came from and you're not allowed to question that.
     
  24. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Cite? Facts? Source?
     
  25. Nemesis

    Nemesis Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18,410
    Likes Received:
    10,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I prefer science. Where's yours?
     

Share This Page