scott e.'s thread on Obama's Birth Certificate

i'm sure the discussion and controversy will continue anyway..

 

yes, morons will still discuss it, and we will point and laugh at them. but there is no controversy. it was settled 5 years ago

 

that's wrong rahl, and/but I think we'll all stay connected until we get some answers.

 

Nohin i posted was wrong

 

case in point.

 

have the anti birthers addressed this point ny point ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/141551627/Zullo-Affidavit

i'm reading this again now...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/116752480/The-Annotated-Zullo

 

this is worth revisiting:
[video=youtube;H3aCfR8rmrw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H3aCfR8rmrw#t=48[/video]

also: I believe that there was a gentleman who foai'd his long form from Hawaii. my question is this, has the Virginia sunahara foia able ?

why are some of the primary players from the antibirther side unavailable with respect to identity ? the two that come to mind are RC (radio fogbow) and someone known as NBC who is supposedly responsible for ending any controversy with solid empiracle proof that the long form pdf is a simple scan done on a white house Xerox copier. with the experts on both side ever come together in transparent way to resolve their differences.

are there any examples of certified births in/from Hawaii in 1961 whereby the child was not born in Hawaii.

 

....yawn....

 

that reminds me, I must mow my lawn, good night for the socks.

 

Just more bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about the long ago debunked claims from the Birfers regarding the long form. Been there, debunked that. Birfers have nothing...they are just like stir-crazy zoo animals that cover themselves with their own fecies.

 

No thanks

No. Her brother Duncan Sunahara tried to use Hawaii's open records laws to obtain a copy of his sister's long form BC and the court ruled against him. The courts said birth records are exempt from those provisions and covered under a separate section of Hawaii codes.

I am flattered you consider me a "primary player". I don't really. What difference does it make whether my name is Randy or Frank or Reality or Fred or NBC? How would that affect whether we have demonstrated that the WH LFBC was likely scanned on a WorkCentre 7655 to a large degree of certainty? The CCP and other Birther experts have claimed no machine could produce the anomalies seen in the LFBC PDF. NBC, primarily, and I to a lesser extent have shown that statement is not true. We have given a detailed procedure and posted the results. To date the neither Mike Zullo nor any other Birther has done anything but blow smoke without releasing a single result to contradict our claims. If you cannot see that Mike Zullo is a complete liar and a fraud by this point you probably never will.

Neither NBC or I claim to be experts in the field of computer graphics. Neither is Reed Hayes. I suspect one of the reasons you and others want our names is so that you can say "See X is not an expert in the field of computer graphics and forensics". If you want the opinion of someone who is very qualified in this area read what Ivan Zatkovich or Dr. Neal Krawetz wrote within days of the release of the LFBC. I have read both of their opinions and the "Xerox" theory fits within what they wrote.

You need to clarify what you are asking. Are there any examples from 1961 of birth certificates for persons born outside of Hawaii that say they were born in Hawaii? No. Birthers have been telling us for five years that they were easy to get but not a single example of one has been produced. Of course the reason is because that is not what the laws allowed. The Birthers can't read and comprehend the law. I suspect Mike Zullo can but he is just lying about what the law says.

 

Zullo says that there a newspaper announcements of such things. This is part of a very long list of claims from Zullo that he just let drop, never providing the details. In one fell swoop the birthers could undermine the Obama newspaper announcements with this information, so I must assume that they don't have it, and Zullo lied as he has so often.

As for the identities of RC and NBC, Americans have a right to privacy, and anyone who harps about demanding that they identify themselves is not in line with real notions of American liberty and freedom. It is a transparent propaganda trick and immoral.

 

I think you guys are both playing with fire...

 

Birthers are the ultimate recyclers.

No matter how often their pet theories and claims are proven false and tossed in the trash, a few months or years later they drag them out of the trash and post them again- with astonishing forgetfulness that they have been proven to be lies before.

 

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are you suggesting that we the birthers (I still work alone though) are more go green than thou the obots ? that's probably true.

so what about that racism question ? I got banned for the seventh time at o.c.t... before you could answer.

maybe you can answer another question, all of you: what is it about defending Obama that leads you to believe that you are on higher moral ground than those with concerns about his life story. the louder cries of racism signal the discontent/desperation of the adversary. especially so far into the caper timeline. yes, I still call it a caper.

you all like to proclaim expertise and wholesome wisdom and truth, but your key players/experts keep shrouded in the shadows. could it be multiple identity problems?? and the fogbow, eight lawyers strong is impossibly sophomoric.

and you wonder why at the same time why you aren't taken more seriously. does Obama even know you exist ? I am betting yes. I wonder why kevin and RC choose to engage here, even after dissing me on their own sites. it's like arduini, the expert on everything, tells everyone that I chase him around the web, yet it was he that lifted my phone number from orly's site, then posted it here. then he denied doing so, then, when I showed it to him he said, oh that... how funny. then he disappeared. it's all right here in the archives.

at the very least, you should stand by your work. (not you specifically sfj.)

character matters. the comparisons of Benghazi, the misuse of the irs all run concurrent to the enigma Obama and his contrived provenance.

you all wish this would end more than I do. none of you fool me one little bit. none of us would still be here today if you had.

another round of red flags for the antibirther/obot brigade.

 

More green? No.. Just stupid because they don't know the law or the conditions in 1961.

 

margot two, you've been around for awhile: why do you think all of the obots have to be outed ?? what's the problem ? is it part of the obot genius strategy, as touted by foggy himself ? ?

 

The fact that your position is founded on easily demonstrable lies... and you embrace them. That alone establishes the difference.

 

I expect this will all be sorted out fairly soon. more cash for clunkers, more irs, more fast and furious, more obamacare, more Benghazi (60 minutes), more birth certificate.

time will pass, will you ??

https://www.google.com/search?q=ben...fqkQfkt4CgAQ&ved=0CBoQpwUoAg&biw=1204&bih=590

 

Even in the USA, can they still be peddling this bilge?

 

i'm peddling my bicycle. born in the U.S.A.

 

It must be really interesting for you to still be living in 2008.

What was prime time TV like in those days?

 

frank, consider this... you are responsible for the care and feeding of the cardinal health website. that's a big outfit. ...

what's the problem here? I could have made one phone call to bob parsons to handle the job for obamacare....

600 mil for a website ? really 0bama ? internet solyndra is what we have here.

what would you have done ??