Seems like everyone in the Middle East likes Putin

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  1. Coachac

    Coachac Well-Known Member

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    Iran and Saudi Arabia are sworn mortal enemies, yet both seem to be staunch supporters of Putin. I know they all have a vested interest in oil, but it really seems more like the Middle East is going out of their way to side with Putin. They have a collective FU attitude towards America at this time. Putin seems to be quite the Arabian darling. Between Iran supplying drones and Saudi Arabia helping by keeping oil prices high, the Middle East is really a huge factor in keeping Putin afloat. Even Israel has relatively friendly relations with Putin. The only person that seems to be benefiting from America’s foreign policy in the Middle East , and our domestic green policy is Putin.
     
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    This is it in a nutshell..."They have a collective FU attitude towards America"
    Why do you think they (OPEC+) are cutting production? It has nothing to do with "our domestic green policy". This has everything to do with democracy. What do all those countries have in common? They are authoritarian regimes. What did they see with Trump? A crack in our resolve to have a democracy. They want Trump back....period. Why? Because they can manipulate him like a puppet.
    Wise up people.
     
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    Link or wrong forum?
     
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    Yet they were equally as much of an FU during the Trump regime as they are now. Nothing's changed about their opposition to America.
     
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    manipulate Trump? That's funny. Biden begged and pleaded with the Saudis to boost production and instead they doubled the original amount they intended to reduce production by. Not knowing when to shut up, Biden accused the Saudis of siding with Putin for cutting back production, yet by waging war against American oil, Biden is also siding with Putin by playing into his hands and keeping prices high. Way to go, Brandon.
     
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    That's so WEIRD!! Why oh why would the middle east go out of their way to side against AMERICA?!?!? It doesn't make ANY SENSE at all!! What did we EVER do to the middle east?!?!?

    (in case you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm)

    How the U.S. Wrecked the Middle East - The American Conservative
    Questioning the Reasons For U.S. Involvement in the Middle East | World Politics Review
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    Sure, they all like him, until he tries to take their land to get access to seas or other water.
     
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    Hmm. Israel? Iraq?
     
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    and Iran and Libya and Egypt and Syria and Afghanistan, and those are just the ones we ****ed directly.
     
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    Putin seems to be able to play both sides quite well. He sticks to what’s in his best interests and stays out of other countries problems and occasional transgressions. Americas policy is more to pretend we are perfect and condemn everyone else. America does fcuked up stuff of our own almost daily, yet we try and portray ourselves as saints. Many other Countries have lost respect for us and it has become easy for other countries to band together or just shrug us off. The one thing we seem to have for now is a lot of weapons, if that changes were probably in big trouble.
     
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    Traditionally Putin has done well with Israel. The relationship is strained lately mostly due to the Ukraine war , but that may smooth out over time.

    As far as Iraq goes, it’s hard to say since Bush practically destroyed everything with his epic failed search for WMD. That was probably one of the biggest foreign affairs disasters in Americas history. Probably the unofficial end of respect for America around the world.
     
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    It isn't that they like Putin as much as they hate Biden. They also know what a crook Biden is and that he wasn't elected as much as installed.
     
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    Ok
    First, Biden DID ask the Saudi's to increase production to get lower gas prices because we're spoiled here. The rest of the world doesn't have a problem paying $5 for gas because they have been paying that for years but you have a problem with Biden trying to help you out.
    Second, Biden is not "waging war against American oil". We will be at 13 million barrels early next year which is the best that any administration has done and it was only for a short time at that.
    Third, The Saudis DID side with Putin to cut back. Russia is part of OPEC+
    Forth, Trump gave a FU to the Saudi's by saying he would get oil from Iran and what happened.....he crashed the market.
    So......what's your point.
     
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    I think it's more a matter of everyone in the ME hating Biden.
     
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    Biden shot himself and this country in the foot when he repeated the mistake of crawling back into bed with the "Death to America!" crowd in Tehran. I can't think of a better way to piss the Saudis off, yet the self-styled geniuses in the White House couldn't figure that out themselves.

    As for Putin, he does not stay out of other countries' business. The Georgians and Ukrainians can tell you all about it....
     
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    Putin has more nukes than we do. This is just called playing it safe.
     
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    LOL, you actually think the middle east just started liking Putin 2 yrs ago? That's funny stuff right there.
     
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    Apart from Iran, it has always been about liking MONEY.

    Talking about Iran, - things are starting to unravel, and their population is gravitating toward the West, and freedom.
     

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