Sen. Kelly Loeffler to Object to Electoral College Certification Process

Not spreading a false hood at all, using your own words against you.

Not a strawman at all.

Not a strawman.

Not running away, just pointing out hte truth you dont wwant to see.

Incorrect, I explained why I used it correctly. Which you just dont like.

Yes you did.

Nothing I have said is wrong.

Not wrong, you just dont like the truth.

 

I'll try to help you out here: at no point did I say there was abundant evidence that Trump colluded. At no point did I claim that there was no incidence of fraud whatsoever. I've also repeatedly asked for evidence and you have fled from that request, despite claiming that no one on the forums has done any such thing.

 

Incorrect, I haven't fled from anything. This is your delusion. But its interesting turn of events after so many years of "trump colluded with russia" and being asked to prove it...yet you never could.

Yes you did say that, and yes you are wrong. You and virtually every other democrat on this forum believed there was an abundance of evidence Trump colluded with russia, and yall died on that hill and were ultimately proven wrong.

Just because you dont do the research to see where the fraud is occurring, where it is proven, and where it is simply more likely than not, is not my fault. There is no discussion to be had with someone who legit believes there is no fraud whatsoever.

I'm content with posting the truth, if you truly want to be an informed citizen, then you will look up the truth.

 

I've repeatedly asked for evidence. You have repeatedly fled from that request. Feel free to stop running away and actually provide something.

Quote me ever saying there is an abundance of evidence that Trump himself colluded with Russia or that there was literally not a single evidence of fraud in the 2020 election. Ah, yet another challenge you will run away from. Great.

I'm a registered Libertarian and I never made that claim. Please at least try telling the truth for a single sentence.

The later is a fake argument. But thank you for admitting you are running away from the request for evidence.

If there is so much evidence, why can't you provide any?

 

Its not my job to do your research for you, you have demonstrated you dont care about the truth, you care about narrative and defending ones party. There is no way a person who wants to be reasonably informed could avoid the evidence that is objectively proving fraud occurred, and where the evidence is simply circumstantial and likely. I'm not running from anything, by refusing to do the research...you are.

I will not go searching for what I know exists, to prove it to someone who knows it exists as well,you definitely said it and you know it.

You are a democrat, regardless of how you choose to identify.

Its not a fake argument, its the truth. You are running away from the evidence by refusing to do any research.

I could, but its clear you dont care.

 

If you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you. You made the claim, I requested evidence, you ran away.

I've asked for evidence. That's how you care about the truth. You are (ready for it?) projecting.

This has nothing to do with the LP "narrative."

No one is claiming that there is literally no evidence of even a single instance of fraud. I've repeatedly acknowledged that there are examples of fraud . . . mostly fraud for Trump, fraud nonetheless.

I've asked for your evidence. Dozens of times. You guys keep running away.

This is what running away looks like.

Thank you for, yet again, confirming that you have no interest in the truth.

I've researched every claim I've come across. It isn't my fault you have fallen for vapid garbage.

White flag accepted.

 

You run from evidence by refusing to do any research. No projecting on my part, that has been demonstrated on your part objectively.

It does, and you know it.

If you think no one, including yourself, is claiming "no election fraud" then you really arent paying attention. Again, how is one supposed to have a discussion with someone like you who thinks NO ONE is claiming this? Lmao.

You should be willing to do basic research.

You would know, yet are still wrong.

You are projecting.

No, you clearly haven't.

Again, you are projecting.

 

Thank you for admitting you have no evidence to offer evidence of your claims, that you are unwilling to discuss evidence of your claims, and that you are unwilling to to tell the truth about my statements. I feel like this is a recurring pattern.

 

The recurring pattern is you claiming victory for something you haven't earned, running away from the basic responsibility of being informed and doing your own research.

Nothing you have said is true here.

 

I'm REALLY sick and tired of having high elected officials in our government focus on attacking our democracy.

This should be treason. It's an assault on the very foundation of of our entire system of government.

We SERIOUSLY need a house cleaning of those who just can not figure out that we are a democracy.

And, yes - that absolutely DOES include jokers like Trump and his cheap little sidekicks like Cruz.

 

Your claim, your burden of proof. Of course, if you were actually interested in "your own research," you'd learn that this forum has a search function, which shows that I've 1) Engaged claims of massive voter fraud and addressed the "evidence" 2) I've said that there is not enough evidence to prove Trump himself engaged in any sort of collusion with Russia, and in fact expressed doubt that he did so and 3) I've said that there were instances of voter fraud in 2020. The recurring pattern here is your unwillingness to engage in discussions of evidence, always running away when asked to satisfy the burden of proof and provide evidence of your claims.

 

The burden of proof is on you. You made the assertion. Produce the EVIDENCE.

Until you do, you are repeating falsehoods, which we will continue to point out.

 

Wrong, its not a claim its the objective truth. It is your responsibility to do your own research, its not my responsibility to make you be an informed person. Your failure to do so, is your own shortcoming, not my fault.

You haven't addressed anything, you pretend none occurred and dismiss without reason despite the evidence.

No you didnt, you claimed he did and died on that hill. You may have changed your position now, but to little to late.

Your unwillingness to participate by doing an ounce of research is not my falt.

 

Incorrect, the objective truth is there regardless if you choose to see it or not.

Its YOUR responsibility do you YOUR research. It is not mine to do it for you.

Nothing I have said is false, and I will continue to put out the truth relentlessly, regardless of how you "feel" about it.

 

No, actually what those who are asserting fraud are saying is "I don't understand how vote-counting works and I never investigated the subject with my election commission, and therefore its all fraudulent!"

 

Thats your own delusion, and not a reflection of the actual argument at hand.

Not surprising tbh.

 

You are free to continue living in your fantasies. As you are unwilling to discuss evidence of any of your claims, there is no honest discussion to be had. Ta ta.

 

No fantasy, just the reality. Your inability to see it, is your own fault.

 

I would advise you all to not debate certain members in this thread. It is like speaking to a pre-recorded message that can only repeat the same thing over & over again.

Note to mods, I am not calling out any of the fine members on these forums.

 

Note to mods: At one time there was a rule that when someone claimed something and they were called to produce proof of set claim, they were obligated to produce it or retract. Bring it back and the trolling and flame baiting will be cut by 99% immediately.

 

I look at those type of posts as more of a post count increase obsession certain folks may have. LOL

 

There's a good chance that after tonight, Loeffler will no longer be a senator. Of course it will take a few days to swear in the two new senators. So the possibility exist her objection may be her last official act as a U.S. Senator.

 

From what CNN's exit polls are telling me. I think both Republicans are going to win sadly

 

Just about 2 in 10 Republicans are “very confident” that votes will be counted accurately, compared with roughly 7 in 10 Democrats and 4 in 10 independents.

So roughly 60% of independents and 80% of Republicans don't believe the election will be fair.

The media would have you think otherwise.

 

I'm not even watching it. I turned off my TV 3 weeks ago as I just got sick and tired of all the negative personal attack ads. There's been a billion dollars spent on these 2 runoff races, most money came from out of state.

Regardless of who wins tonight, the good news is come morning, I can turn on my TV once again without being bombarded with all those ads telling me how each of the four candidates are the worst scumbags on the face of the earth, perhaps even the universe. All four have given me a trillion and one reason why I shouldn't vote for their opponents, but not one, not one candidate has give me a single reason to vote for him.

I've never seen anything like these runoffs. My mail box is full of junk political mail and my phone rings 20 times a days with someone telling me to vote for so and so. I unplugged my phone also. What happens, happens.

I'll turn on the laptop in the AM to find out who won. I really don't trust those exit polls anymore. So we'll see. Actually, I'm more interested to see who wins in the runoff for Public Service Commission. Weird, I know. But the senate races, I had enough of them and their negativity.