Serena Williams Meltdown US Open

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess no where. It appears we both agree she did nothing wrong.
     
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    No, I don’t need to rethink anything. McEnroe had too many temper tantrums during play and felt free to berate the ref anytime. He was disqualified in the forth round. Serena had a melt-down And the ref should have let it go in a grand slam final. I played the game for 35 years and understand the rules.
    It put a damper on that young player’s great performance, even if only for the moment.
     
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    Females run all the time in sports bras. Who cares?
     
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    Disqualified. Sent away. End of tournament.
    Not a point or a game, but gone. I agree McEnroe's behavior was disgraceful.

    And so is Serena Williams' and that hers was in the finals of the US Open and she has poisoned the well by blaming sexism for her
    tantrum makes her psychodrama all the worse, I think.

    All the more reason NOT to let it go on.
    When she pointed her finger at Ramos in front of everyone and called him a liar and thief she more than qualified herself for receiving a code conduct penalty (verbal or physical abuse of an official).

    I've played just as long on a national down to local level
    and I don't think you do. http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018...erena-williams-naomi-osaka-controversy/76919/
    Serena Williams made the
    women's finals an embarrassing mess.
     
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    Cornet had just returned to court from a break and her violation was time related because she should have changed out of
    damp clothing while in the locker room. She did not.
     
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    Serena is a amateur compared to McEnroe.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    So what? It is not as though she stripped bare ass naked. If a male did that, so what? And if she did it, so what?
     
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    Don’t agree with your assessment. The forth round is not a final round, and yes Serena was embarrassing.
     
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    It isn’t rocket science and a sports bra is not underware. Again, I have noticed women runners in sports bras.
     
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    William's dummy spit was disgraceful, accurately protrayed in the Knight cartoon, and what is far worse, she deprived the Winner of the moment in the Sun she was honourably entitled to .... USA Open Champ. Then, Williams tried to double down with cries of being a heroine/victim/advocate of and against sexist abuse. Rubbish. The Umpire calmly did his job while she spat her dummy. Simple as that.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Correct, but ref should have had restraint in a grand slam final set. Naomi was not to be denied anyway
    On that day and it ruined her moment.
     
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    Tell me about your really big Johnson. I am jealous.
     
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    Actually, it is.
    All bras are.

    So have I. The US Open is not a venue for joggers.
    Serena Williams' "cat suit" will be banned from next year's French Open despite the fact that women can wear that type of
    suit around other places if they want. What can I tell you?
     
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    You don't suspend rules of conduct according to which round a tournament is in. The USTA fined Williams seventeen grand for her conduct
    including her verbal abuse of Carlos Ramos.

    I've heard other apologists saying you don't let the chair umpire control the outcome of a match by making Serena Williams conform to rules of conduct every other player is bound by.
    But the alternative is to let one player with an ego as massive as her body ruin the event for everyone else and tip the game in her favor by throwing her opponent off her game and intimidate the chair umpire so he stops doing his job.
    Your opinion in favor of a sort of on court anarchy thankfully does not count for much.
     
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    I apologize for derailing the thread, but as a fan of words, I have never heard of "gentiles" being used in this manner. Could you point me to any references please? I am always interested in learning new things. Thank you in advance.
     
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    You know...ladies and gentiles?
     
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    Mammals and reptiles? But I have never heard of "gentiles" being used in reference to the "lower portion of the body."
     
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    Was she wearing a banned item?
     
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    If she was it wasn't banned at the time. Now it is.
     
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    This has to do with common sense. The rules are at times relaxed by the refs in other sports at the end, like in pro Basketball. This was one of those times. The fine was pennies.
     
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    It's accepted that most players will see they are
    perilously close to a third code violation and moderate their behavior. If Williams not only doesn't, but steps up her verbal abuse, whose fault is that? And why do some people expect the US Open tennis tournament to bend to the will of one spoiled prima dona?

    In baseball a batter can say most anything to an umpire as long as he doesn't turn and face the ump and make it clear he is challenging his authority. Williams would do well to watch a baseball game.



    I agree in the case of Serena Williams but the fine is largely symbolic and to a mere qualifying player who throws a fit in the first round
    the fine is just the same and has real deterring value, hopefully. For someone as big headed, in every sense of the words as Serena Williams, deterrents obviously don't bother her.

    Your opinion did not carry the day. Get over yourself.
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    You can see I do.
     
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    It is your opinion and means nothing except to you.
     

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