Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border

I think you overlook the absence of the term "medical" in "initial health screening". The term "medical" in a health check suggests an actual doctor being involved, the absence of the term in "initial health check", together with the circumstances we know of (it was at about 10 p.m., conducted by 4 BP agents in the space of possibly 4 hours, in a remote area and that forms were distributed for the 164 illegals to specify adverse health conditions) suggests to me this was something done without stethoscopes, blood pressure cuffs, blood samples and such. You seem to think liability arises due to mere custody and that since the child's health was actually in danger, every resource available had to be applied. I think it is a very fact sensitive question, when was the child's condition accurately identified? Was there fault in not having identified the child's condition sooner?

I think the BP simply applied their standard practices, they don't deploy doctors on their patrols , they have these forms routinely used to get basic health information from those apprehended, they've got just one bus to haul illegals from wherever they find them to some sort of processing center and it takes a couple of hours to make the trip. If one perceives absolute liability, the BP would have to have at least 1 doctor on every patrol and deploy actual ambulances with a full complement of life support equipment and properly trained personnel to operate them, they'd need lots of medevac helicopters and probably much better sensors monitoring the border so 4 agents don't suddently come across 164 illegals 90 miles from the border. How many actual doctors would it take to properly render medical examinations on 164 people within a reasonable amount of time?

 

The truth is that these people view children in a much different light than most Americans do. When you visit these countries you will see unsupervised toddlers playing on the sides of steep cliffs or in sewers. You also see mothers sending their children out to beg.

I noticed that neither of the parents of this child even attended her funeral. I find that unbelievable.

 

That is not meaning that one bit.
It means that the US authorities failed to give her the care she needed when they gave her a medical check, while she was in their care. And we all know that every second counts, and THAT "mistake" the US authorities made, and subsequently not doing anything for 8 hours, lead to her death.

 

We're on page 76, and you got no clue what went on.
really...

They are liable because they failed to see the child could never have been in good health, while the US authorities who had that child in their care, gave her a pass on THEIR medical check. And subsequently did not do anything for 8 hours while every second counts. You leaving way too much out, and it looks you're doing that on purpose, to come up with a different conclusion.

 

Then explain why not.

Then the accusation being lodged on the part of yourself is that the united states government murdered the minor in question.

 

Not seeking medical help for an ill dependent is a felony. Falling into several child abuse categories. If that abuse results in death in most states it can be altered to second degree murder or manslaughter.

 

She's only the first one where Democrats cared, for political reasons.

They didn't seem concerned about any of the ones who died when Obama was POTUS.

They certainly don't care about the ones sold into slavery or killed before they get here by condoning illegal immigration.

 

Or handing their children to drug cartels to be used however they want.

 

fine... but it will look rather familiar:
It means that the US authorities failed to give her the care she needed when they gave her a medical check, while she was in their care. And we all know that every second counts, and THAT "mistake" the US authorities made, and subsequently not doing anything for 8 hours, lead to her death.

 

Then it was the fault of the caravan that the minor in question died, as they intentionally sought out the crossing point furthest away from any adequate medical care in their efforts to sneak into the united states under cover of darkness. Had they chosen to approach legitimately, at a much closer port of entry that is more adequately staffed, the minor in question could have received adequate, immediate medical aid days earlier when there was still hope for her survival. But they did not do such. They did not care about the minor in question, thus making them guilty of murder instead. Her father and each individual member of the caravan is nothing more than an accessory to the crime.

 

No...
It means that the US authorities failed to give her the care she needed when they gave her a medical check, while she was in their care. And we all know that every second counts, and THAT "mistake" the US authorities made, and subsequently not doing anything for 8 hours, lead to her death.

All you're doing is just never mind this as if it did not happen.
To than pin the blame on anybody else.

 

Not a "medical examination", an "initial screening", I think the absence of the term "medical" implies this screening was not by doctors or trained medical personnel. To claim actual doctors in the BP negligently conducted such a poor a medical examination they were unaware this child was suffering a life-threatening condition and in need of urgent care is not the same thing as saying BP agents who were not doctors or trained medical personnel didn't notice anything wrong with the child.

This is why I highlight the difference between initial and medical screenings, I see no reference to doctors, any drawing of blood, use of stethoscopes, blood pressure cuffs, mention is made of statements by the child's father, some form he signed saying the child was fine. It does appear like the initial screening is more like they asked if she was ok rather than physically examined the child.

 

Walking through the desert for days on end, risking hypothermia and drowning is simply just "hiking?" Surely you can't be serious. And are you saying that practically everyone survives the desert journey? What does that mean? Only or one or two killed?

 

No medical check was performed until the minor in question arrived at an actual medical facility, which the border crossing point was not.

Such is not how things actually work in the united states. If a minor is taken to a hospital and dies as a result of neglect and abuse committed by the parent, legal guardian, or another outside actor, the death is not the fault of either the hospital or the physicians on staff for not doing enough to prevent the death from occurring. Rather the blame falls upon those who had the minor in their custody prior to being seen by the professionals.

In this particular case, the minor in question suffered the abuse while in the custody of her father and the caravan, long before they ever arrived at the united states border.

Why are you so insistent that the father shares absolutely zero blame for the condition of the minor in question? It is not as if she was in perfect health during the journey, and only developed sepsis upon being taken into custody by border patrol.

 

There are many who die or thirst during the hot summer months, but it is not as big a deal as you think during cooler months. Why do you think there is a "flood" of people "pouring" across the border if it was practically impossible to cross? Why would we need a wall if the desert is an impassable barrier?

 

Go source that

In this case the legal guardian is not the parent, but the US authorities

 

There is no desert that can not be crossed. That is why a wall is needed. However, desert crossing is hazardous. Depending on the time of year, extreme heat will be present during the day. At night it can be very cold. Deadly snakes, scorpions, cacti, plants with poisonous thorns, and an assortment of hostile animals and reptiles await you. Sun stroke, sun burn, no water, all can kill.

This is certainly not a type of atmosphere you want to drag a sick kid through.

 

After the sources relied on the part of yourself are presented for review.

Did the abuse occur before or after the minor in question was taken into custody by the border patrol agents?

Once again. Why are you so insistent that the father shares absolutely zero blame for the condition of the minor in question? It is not as if she was in perfect health during the journey, and only developed sepsis upon being taken into custody by border patrol.

 

You go source it. chop chop. Or else it's just some more idiotic things like hypothermia.

I don't care about your question. My remark still stands that your example if false and dishonest.

 

Clearly the abuse occured before the child reached the BP station

 

It seems millions have chosen to take that risk, and succeeded, or else we would not be talking about building walls. Also, it does not appear the kid was sick when the took off, but got sick during the journey, so the choice was to drag the sick kid South, or drag her North. The father chose to continue North. I do now know which direction was shorter.

 

The claim presented on the part of myself is based on the fact the border patrol station is not a hospital, thus no medical care could actually be provided there. Therefore no medical check occurred. Therefore the united states government did not fail the minor in question. Therefore the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the father, as well as the individual members of the caravan itself.

 

Mexico is paying for the wall we don't need.. They are going to give jobs to the caravan.. Trump wins again!!

Xi Jin Ping Pong anyone??

 

Than it would be clear that the girl -when she was in the US custody- never could have passed their health check.
But they said she did and hence when every second counts, did nothing for her for 8 hours and subsequently died.

 

Case studies or the big picture??

Two kids happens