Shaq Speaks Out Against Vaccine Mandates

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  1. dharbert

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    Shaq rips COVID vaccine mandates: 'You shouldn’t be forced to take something you don’t want' | Fox News

    O’Neal, the Basketball Hall of Famer who won NBA championships with the Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat during his career, encouraged his listeners on "The Big Podcast with Shaq" to "be safe and "take care of your family." But he disagreed with forcing those people who don’t want it to get it.

    "But it’s just, people don’t want to take it, and you shouldn’t be forced to take something you don’t want," he said.

    Will the left now cancel Shaq? We shall see...
     
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    no one is being forced, it's their choice, they may not have some opertunities if they don't though
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Denying employment is force. Results do not justify this abuse of power.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Oh well, an athletic giant and an Internet comedian are against it. Who can argue? Certainly not all the scientists in the world.
     
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    I can't agree with the mandates either. If the vaccines conferred immunity, sure. But they don't.

    Get the vaccine, because quite a bit of the opposition is purely political and based on nonsense or less. But do it because you're choosing to, not because you've been forced.
     
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    we're in the middle of a pandemic
     
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    Yeah, now that you think about it, Shaq proves that some seemingly nice people can be stupid.
     
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    And results don't justify the abuse of power.
     
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    For the record, professional athletes are now an acceptable source for information? Just checking for future reference...
     
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    Even IF they conferred immunity, I can't agree with mandates.
     
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    The only pandemic occurring atm is liberalism.
     
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    Democrats have gone from calling the virus a hoax, and later to saying they'll never trust or take the Trump vaccine. To now demanding that everyone take it, and those who don't are murderers. Same party, two extremes. Such is their reckless lust for power and relevance, which has made them drunken and clouded their judgment.
     
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    Nope. He has black armor.
     
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    If the vaccines did offer immunity, I'd be of a different opinion. Then they'd be no different than the other required vaccinations that all kids gets.

    But there's no sense in talking about it doing something it doesn't do right now. We can have those conversations if that ever changes.
     
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    I think that your line of thinking allows for medical tyranny.

    It allows for me to command you to undergo gastric bypass surgery because I have deemed you to be overweight. It allows for me to command you to undergo kidney transplant surgery because I have deemed that a dialysis patient is in need of your kidney. It allows for me to command you to undergo lung transplant surgery because I have deemed that a cystic fibrosis patient is in need of your lung.

    "My body my choice", you say??? "Nuh uh", says government... "not anymore"... Now, government says: "all your bodies are belong to us".
     
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    People have been fired from their jobs for not getting vaccinated. It is forcing if you threaten to fire them from their jobs. And, the ultimate stupidity is firing health care workers for not being vaccinated and then turning around and letting vaccinated Covid positive workers work due to staffing shortages caused by firing people who weren't actually Covid positive.
     
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    I made several comments on youtube saying I have zero respect for Kareem, Shaq, Stephen A Smith, Chuck and Magic Johnson
    because all of them promoted the most ungodly vaccine which is not even a vaccine because it wanes immediately after you get it
    - for money. Shaq is a slave, who says what is owner tells him to say, and it's disgusting to see a bunch of greedy stupid black
    guys push vaccines and attack Kyrie Irving - the only black athlete who can be trusted. Kyrie doe not care about money - he's rich enough.

    After my comments, Shaq must have sat down and thought it over. Yes, he was a greedy untrustworthy fool who sold his soul
    for money, and Shaq, being a guy who believes in God, decided he better correct his mistake because he doesn't want
    bad karma. After promoting the vaccine half a year ago, Shaq said people should not be forced to get a vaccine if they don't want it.

    anyone who would actually force someone to get a vaccine, is a sub-human. This pandemic has shown there really
    are sub-humans all around us. Justin Trudeau is a sub-human. He i forcing people to get the vaccine, and like
    Shaq, Trudeau is controlled by his owners, the people above him.
     
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    Shaq... well if I have a question about basketball, I'll listen to him. I'm not into the appeal to authority thing though. We all affect other people because we're around other people. The vaccine is safe. The vaccine reduces transmission and severity. Seems reasonable to require it to protect the people who have to be around you at work, at the gym, at restaurants. As I've said before though, an exception for previous infection should be there.

    Democrats calling the virus a hoax... what planet was this? I mean, I believe maybe small-scale, but not large-scale.

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    How dare we coerce you into saving your own life

    Fine, get the vaccine because you want to live, surviving is the patriotic thing to do. Stop ******** in the street because Joe Rogan thinks it's manly, Get the vaccine
     
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    That's a bit of a ridiculous stretch to go from mandating vaccines to mandating operations to steal your organs. It's worth pointing out that mandated vaccines have been around since the 18th century, and we have been mandating vaccines for children on a consistent basis since the 70s. None of your organ theft scenarios have occurred during that time because those mandates existed.

    If the COVID vaccine prevented infection, I would see it as no different than the other vaccines many have us have received that have prevented infections from other serious diseases.
     
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    It's always "a bit of a ridiculous stretch" until it actually happens... I remember back in 2020 when vaccine mandates were "a bit of a ridiculous stretch"... You're a conspiracy theorist for thinking that will happen!! And then, BAM... If you work for a company of 100+ employees, I COMMAND you to get the vaccine. Not a "conspiracy theory" anymore, now is it?? --- Wherever and whenever a door is opened, a tyrannical government IS going to take it to its logical conclusion. --- Just a couple years ago, it was a conspiracy theory to think that vaccine passports could or would ever be implemented in the States... Guess what, now they've popped up in large liberal cities in a number of States. ---- And you know that these tyrannical measures aren't at all about health when the Canadian Government refuses to relinquish such policies even when their own people are demanding them to relinquished. The thought that these policies would stay in place indefinitely (instead of just "two weeks to slow the spread" and then "return back to normal") used to be a conspiracy theory too. NOTHING is "a bit of a ridiculous stretch" for a tyrannical government.

    ... and it's been immoral since that time. --- It's also worth pointing out that slavery has been around since the beginning of time.

    All it would take is for some sort of "crisis" to normalize the idea and then people would go along with it. It's all about public perception and scaring people into giving away their rights/freedoms.

    ... except it is entirely different, as it makes use of mRNA technology that other vaccines don't make use of.

    Whether or not it prevents infection, the mandating of people to undergo such an invasive medical procedure is morally abhorrent. That is not freedom. That is tyranny.
     
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    The guy earned well over a 100 million bucks playing ball. It's dang easy for him to say now, when he is no longer playing in the NBA, that vaxxing shouldn't be forced. No doubt he would flip flop if he still was in his early years trying to earn a very good wage. And now, with his massive mansion where social distancing isn't any problem and retired... it's just easy to make the call he makes. Dang easy.
     
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    It's not force. You can find an other job. And +900,000 people died in that madness. It's just abuse to demand to go on as if it didn't happen for the sake to not get jabbed.
     
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    90% of Pro-Vaxxers are not going to be able to agree with that. Why? Because if they believed that, they would also have to believe that there is no reason for anti-discrimination laws to exist. IF their logic were to remain consistent.

    I'd love to accuse you of disingenuity and dishonesty, but I cannot, since I don't know anything about your actual personal positions. But if you are the type of person who is not being a hypocrite here, then people like you are only part of a small minority.
    I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you think anti-discrimination laws are mostly pointless, as well as believing people getting fired from many jobs because they don't want to have something injected into their bodies doesn't matter.

    I think even most Radical Libertarians still take issue when it is the GOVERNMENT doing something though.

    So if you believe there's no problem when the government does this, wholesale, then I'd have to believe you are NOT being honest with us, that you are just trying to dishonestly brush this off.

    In New Zealand, the stupid Prime Minister was trying to issue an executive decree that would have ended up requiring workers in 60% of the jobs in the economy to be vaccinated. Obviously when it is taken that far, things go very much into question, how reasonable it actually is for so many workers to just change their jobs to the few remaining ones that are left.

    I hope I do not have to assume this against you, but you did not seem to draw any distinction between whether this decision was coming from the government or private sector.
    If you think that doesn't matter, than you are must assuredly not a Libertarian, and then I would suspect you're coming about this from a indifferent Left-wing perspective rather than a Conservative Libertarian one.
     
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    Basketball isn't a sport that requires any thing more than excessive height to play well. It certainly makes few intellectual demands on its practitioners.
     

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