Should All Occupied Territories Be Given Back?

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Your's is the arrogance if you really think the world at large is so tied up around the Palestinian finger, also, the "another" threat which comes from a ppl theirs own enemies piety - is amusing.
     
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    You simply don't seem to understand that the world at large has given its trust to the rule of law and the United Nations. Zionism's scorn for both is, therefore, of worldwide concern. Israel's own internal juvenile theatrics are not. Once you've submitted to the requirements of law it can happily ignore your tantrums. Except for your covert bomb. You'll not find any peace whilst you maintain that.
     
  3. Gilos

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    We wont find true peace regardless because like you said so before - some of you regard everything as occupied, if that's not enough your own religous books say there cannot be peace with Jews so I dont see any wrong in being just HALF selfish as you are.

    About the world, we'll see.
     
  4. Face. Your

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    Lol this implies that there is somehow a sovereign state in the West Bank, which there isn't. :roll:
     
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    In the world of the Islamophile only when lands are conquered and occupied by Muslims is it justified, this is why you won't here a peep over the centuries old colonialist occupations and cultural genocides conducted by Islamic Imperialists in Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, and Buddhist lands.
     
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    There's a United Nations-recognised State up to the pre-1967 borders. Your emphasis on ' sovereign ' is meaningless.
     
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    And by the world the Islamophile means the Ummah which is incapable of doing anything save for murdering civilians in mass.
     
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    That's the extremist position. I advocate the rule of law.
     
  9. Gilos

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    No you are not, you are exploting the law for your own agenda, to you a Palestinain state in the WB is just stage 1. that's where you and the law break up.
     
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    There's no point quoting the question if you can't answer it.
     
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    lol no it has not, it has recognized it as a non-member observer state, it did not recognize its borders as being those of pre-1967 and in fact did not recognize any borders whatsoever. Tell us where is the government of this so called "Palestinian State" is it in Gaza or the West Bank?
     
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    How far back do you want to go? Should Britain give up and return the country to the Italians?
     
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    If occupied territories are to be returned, make sure that Kurdistan is given back to the Kurds.
     
  14. Face. Your

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    Italy didn't exist at the time, it was the Roman Empire.
     
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    Additional lands in the West Bank. They are continuing, to this day, to demolish Palestinian homes and drive the people there away.
     
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    Yes, well ancient history has its own way of not being relevant to now. By the way, when was the last "cultural genocide" conducted by Muslims?
     
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    You know exactly what I meant. I didn't say "Roman Empire" because there isn't one. The laws on occupation are comparatively recent and do not, as far as I am aware, work retrospectively. Therefore any attempts at bringing up,say, the Ottoman Empire, are pointless.
     
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    You won't find peace until you understand why the arabs rejected zionism and why it matters

    http://jfjfp.com/?p=46224

    and when you do, you will also understand why many people find your signature highly offensive.
     
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    Was that meant to be an answer to Happy Fun Dude’s question “Who else among the free world is taking over neighbors right now?” If it was, it failed miserable. If it wasn’t, then it was a Strawman. Your pick, Borat.
     
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    No they are not, they have demolished shanty towns on their side of the green line not in the west bank, some homes in area C are scheduled for demolition but have been so since 2008, however, they have not been demolished and even if they were under international law IE the Oslo Accords Area C is completely under Israeli military AND civil administrative control.
     
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    Sudan Arabization continues to this day. Then of course there was the ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Buddhists conducted in Western India now known as Pakistan and then of course there is Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Mauritania.
     
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    Depends, if populations are displaced then yes , i don't think Australian natives or Maori are displaced , 10% of Europeans who represent the first inhabitants of the continent are not displaced either.
    As about Cyprus it is about time for foreigners to pull their armies out and let Cypriots decide on their own.
     
  23. alexa

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    Living in fantasy land as usual

    http://www.icahd.org/faq
     
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    They said no because they couldn't stand the idea of a Jewish state comprised of a mere 10% of the British Mandate of Palestine in lands where Jews have had an unbroken presence in for 10 thousand years.

    Your article is a joke BTW, it claims that Zionism was based on biblical rather than secular claims to the land which is false, Zionism was a response to anti-Semitism and the claims to the lands in Palestine were not based on a biblical mandate but on the fact that Jews are the indigenous peoples of that land.
     
  25. Gilos

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    I know why they said no, I reject they had a right to say no - or at least act violently against the 19th century immigrants, the nation which they see themselves part of took the land by force of arms from another nation that took it by force of arms and so on, this immigration was done peacfully and according to the law, the Ottomans approved it - a major consideration you disregard, later when the land became lawless and a new power took over it shuffled the deck, the Jews had already established many settelments on land they bought or that was originally were Jews sat in since ever (Zfat, Tveria, Jerusalem).

    So I regard them as Humans and I understand their rejection and their fear, I even understand their hate, what good does it do me when we are in the point we are ?

    As for my signature, the first mother the sent her son to be a "Shahid" justifies it - and dont even try to say its racism, I know for a fact they exist.
     

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