Should an ex, or sitting president have immunity to SOME laws forever?

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Should an ex, or sitting president have immunity to SOME laws forever?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Only Trump because its been a political witch hunt for him.

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Should an ex, or sitting president have immunity to SOME laws forever?

    Although honestly, I still personally think that Trump supporters think that he should be immune from anything we do lhave laws for.

    Trump wasnt kidding when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and he wouldnt loose any support.


    In fact I think depending on who he was shooting ( say, a Clinton, or Soros ) many would in fact cheer him on in doing so.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    personally i ithnk a president should always have to obey all laws at all times in every situation.

    If he decided to J walk, and a cop decided to give him a ticket for it, it should stand.

    No politicion should be above any single law we have. Perdiod. For anything.
     
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    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Supposedly, the purpose of laws and order in our country is that no one is above the law, whether it's people like you or me or our duly elected officials. That does, however, kinda depend on the law since some of them can be unjust or unfair.

    So to put it simply.....No.
     
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    As long as it is equally applied to every politician and non-politician and 'diplomatic immunity' is abolished, then yes, all laws apply to all people.
     
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    They have immunity to things which are related to the political decisions made while in office, but to those committed in personal life and in this case the crimes were committed before taking office.
     
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    No, no one should have those types of special treatment.

    The only thing that I would support immunity from would be honest mistakes in office. No one gets it right all the time, and in the case of the weak, but honest presidents, like Jimmy Carter, you can't prosecute incompetent.
     
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    In Trump’s case it’s about politics and going after a political opponent. This sets a dangerous precedent for all presidents.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does look like he committed actual crimes, but of course he'll play the victim and you support him doing it.
     
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    A porn star and a perjurer don't make for credible witnesses. The Democrats are desperate to stop a political opponent. They've been trying to take Trump down since the day he started campaigning back when.
     
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    You, and your political leader, can play the victim all day long, but most of us will just wait and see how the 34 charges pan out.
     
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    Short term gain to bring about long term pain will be Democrats undoing. You can bet most conservatives will be watching the circus to see what the DA is hiding that is suppose to be the smoking gun.
     
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    I don't think any case should rely on witnesses alone, if they can avoid it. And he does, this is primarily a documents case. Even "reliable" witnesses are often wrong. Witnesses should be more a tool to generate leads, not to make a case on their own. But we have so many tools available to use, e.g. computers record like everything they're used for.
     
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    Before being elected president, being a sitting president, and being an ex president, that person should be subject to the law at all times.
     
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    Stick to your OP.
    You cannot have a political system without limited qualified immunity or you will have every DA trying to make a name for himself.
    How can you run a country with a dry state now able to drag the prez into court for drinking at 35,000 feet within state boundaries.
    How about the unserious cases like not reporting a champaign toast to the prez as a campaign contribution.
    The squeeze is not worth the juice. It will destroy our political system.


    You have confused a slogan without understanding the big picture.
     
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    I don't think I would phrase it in quite those terms, but I would say "yes", sort of.
    There should be some different treatment.

    When you talk about "laws", there are really two sides to that: How the individual is treated in the legal process, and then whether they can break certain laws with no consequence. Those really are two different things.

    I can't vote in the poll because it is not so simple as "yes" or "no".
     
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    If Trump was immune to laws, he would also be immune to the 'martyr effect' of these witchhunts that Trump haters are failing to realize is the only thing that has a chance of getting him elected again.

    That wouldn't be any fun.
     
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    If you really want to see the United States fully turn into a "banana republic", then let political opponents start throwing each other's leaders in prison for what are mostly political reasons. Sitting presidents should be impeached and removed only if they've done something really criminal, and once they're gone from the White House they should be made to answer for any criminal charges in a court of law. But this stuff we see so often in third world countries where former rulers get railroaded into prison for political reasons is a large part of why those countries never get any better no matter how long they've been in existence.
     
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    "Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good....... or to do evil...... to save life..... or to kill?" (Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in the Book of Mark).

    Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was partly referring to the time of the Maccabees when Greco - Syrian armies attacked Jewish villages on the Sabbath.... and killed all the men... .and took the prettiest Jewish girls into slavery............ the Maccabees fought back............. I believe that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was saying that their decision was valid......and lawful...........

    ...and so..... an ethical President of the USA will likely have to take lives...... .but it will always be impossible to explain this to ignorant people!!!!!!


     

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