Should Fanatical Trumpies Be Treated As Potential Terrorists?

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  1. joepistole

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    Let's stay with the facts, I know it's difficult for Republicans or so self described "conservatives", but facts are important.

    1) Only one Trump office was firebombed, and Democrats responded by immediately raising $13,000 to help Republicans quickly reopen the office.

    2) We don't know who is responsible for the firebombing. It could have just as easily been a Trump supporter. It's not an unheard of or even uncommon political tactic. Hitler did it when he burned the Reichstag.

    And you have no evidence to support any of those assertions either. Whether you realize it or not, and obviously you don't, this is a big problem for Republicans. While making stuff up works well on the short term for Republicans, it doesn't work well on the longer term. That's why the Republican Party is in such a state of disarray today. At some point reality sets in and takes a chunk of Republican derriere, e.g. The Donald.

    Unfortunately for Republicans and these self describe "conservatives" who are anything but conservative, facts do matter. .

    And one more point, there is overwhelming evidence the right wing media you subscribe to does all the things you falsely accuse the mainstream media of doing. It meets with and colludes with Republicans. Roger Ailes, former president of Fox News is collaborating with Donald Trump and helping Trump run his campaign. Independent academic study after study has found consumers of right wing media are less well-informed than people who watch no news at all. That's bad. That's very bad.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/stud...-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

    Unfortunately for Republicans and self described "conservatives", the truth matters.
     
  2. bhoyal

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    Good points.
     
  3. TomFitz

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    The tea party had superficial origins in Ron Paul's fiscal conservatism.

    But that is not what drove the mob in the tri corner hats. Blaning government in general and race in particular were the drivers.

    None of the angry white far right wingers who showed up at "grass root" rallies ever questioned the fact that their newly minted groups has instant slick websites, phone banks, wrapped busses, or wondered why the guys lurking behind the stage all drove cars with Virginia and DC tags.

    In fact, the tea party was born on K Street. EVERY major tea party group was a front for a K Street firm, GOP political outfit, or a direct mail fundraising scam.

    The
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    It's unfortunate that K street is the driver that it is. If Hillary does fulfill the promise on campaign reform, she would immediately earn my good grace since the money-tier system is how we have very few incumbents driven out of office. She'd betray her friends in Washington, for the good of the American People.

    But we'll see. But there are two things those slimeballs called politicians want protected: The money barrier and term limits. But let's not entirely deny Fiscal Conservatism within the TP. Indeed, must we bring up the sequester? IMO, it's possible to have a more balanced federal government while pursuing reforms. If it's true that most of the South/Mid-West States are dependent on these programs, a positive reform could have happened.

    But no one was(or is) interested in reforming government(or they wouldn't have kicked the can for so long. Which wouldn't have let a TP exist in the first place.) Well, I'll give credit where credit is due to Sanders/Warren.

    It's easy to say this in hindsight, but if Warren had ran, she would've won the ticket and would have easily defeated Trump(I would have voted for Warren). Her Consumer financial protection bureau is more than Congress had done probably since Glass-Stegall. I don't see myself as far-left, in fact I don't even see myself as Left anymore(as you might've noticed, I'm jaded). But I still believe in helping people and am anti-corporatism.

    I see corporatism as the greatest evil in our system. And that all warts, including 'systematic racism' stemming from that.
     
  5. Brewskier

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    Yeah, no. "Disgruntled hillbilly" isn't going to call Republicans "Nazis". That's left-wing speak. One of yours. Why not own it? This kind of domestic terrorism is reminiscent of the Bill Ayers years. You know, Obama's pal?
     
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    It would be unrealistically remiss of the (apolitical) state establishment to not already consider some portion of Trump supporters as potential home grown terrorists.
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    You mean after they put down the Hillary supporters riots, looting, and burning of buildings?
     
  8. WJV

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    Here in Australia if a kid refuses to stand for the Australian National Anthem we put them on a Watch List - but in USA you make a national hero out of people for doing the same thing. USA is led by globalist liberal traitors that hate America and Americans and in my opinion it is all liberals that need to be treated as potential terrorists. Look at how liberals just fire bombed a GOP office in North Carolina and the liberal media has ignored the story. If it was a Democrat office that had been firebombed the traitor liberal media would be shouting from the rooftops about how all Trump supporters are terrorists.

    Are all Brexit voters potential terrorists? The Brexit voters actually killed a liberal globalist politician before the vote and they still won. And UK liberals have realized that it is not a great idea to call half of your population racist idiots just because they want immigration reform and a government that serves the national interest. US 'elites' are morons if they install Hillary Clinton as President and calling half of America potential terrorists is not a good idea.

    There is going to be trouble.

    edit - Isnt the entire point of the second amendment for the patriots to rise up against a corrupt and tyrannical government? If not when Clinton wins then when? At what point do the patriots rise up? It is after Clinton wins or never isnt it?

    Maybe the 'Oath Keepers' can protect Hillary from the patriots.

    Note to patriots - the Oath Keepers work for the elites... DerrRRRrr.

    edit - One idea is to create a new conservative party to try to keep things peaceful.

    edit - See the CIA thinks that if a Patriot Uprising did occur the 'Oath Keeper' (*)(*)(*)(*) would be able to lead the rebellion and that way the elites stay in control no matter what. Imagine trying to explain that to your average patriot though.
     
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    No, it is not.

    PS - Hillary Clinton is a patriot. Dirty Donald Trump is un-American.
     
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    It is the radical Left that is trashing America and threatening assassination and violence against Americans, not all the Left.

    These fanatics will need to be watched closely, and any appropriate action taken to safeguard decent Americans if they attempt to fulfill their threats.

    You will find them polluting social media and political forums with outlandish and unfounded attacks against ordinary Americans simply exercising their right to vote. It is an insidious and invasive element that seeks to infiltrate all facets of American society with fear-mongering, intimidation, slander, and oppressive rhetoric against anything or anyone that does not support the "liberal" way.
     
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    The childish ploy of accusing others of whatever one has been caught doing is a tired one.

    When fanatics threaten, “If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it!...We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes! There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take!", it would be derelict for Americans not to be wary.
     
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    Isnt the reason Americans have the right to bear arms so you all can rise up against Hillary Clinton? Of course it is.

    And Donald Trump is as American as apple pie or hotdogs.

    edit - Hotdogs. HA! Oh my God.
     
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    He's just a gruff ol coot spouting off some steam, of which you are exaggerating way out of proportion. If you were actually wary for America, you'd be reporting on more substantial threats, of a more organized nature:

    http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/black-lives-matter-issues-huge-threat-trump-elected

     
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    Because Hillary is for big banks and corporations and Trump is for the American people. Suffering from liberal logic?
     
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    What you are saying is similar to what some Trump supporters have said about BLM or people who happen to be Muslim. It was wrong when they said it, it's still wrong.

    An actual threat should be taken seriously and investigated. But someone expressing their feelings or making predictions, even ugly feelings or scary predictions, is not crossing that line. Yea, many of those folks are idiots. They are still Americans, they still have the same rights we all enjoy. Including the right express dumb, even hateful, opinions.




     
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    This is pretty much EXACTLY what Hillary was saying in the "Basket of Deplorables" speech. Unfortunately, she said the Basket remark first. This tendency to the extremely unfortunate turn of phrase goes all the way back to the "vast right -wing conspiracy" (which does, in fact, exist, as the Republican primary campaign has proven beyond ANY shadow of doubt)

    Nevertheless this is what she was saying then and she has said she means to do something for these people, and that means something beyond giving their employers tax breaks and grabbing their daughter's genitals
     
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    Really if it had been a Clinton campaign office the liberal news media would not have given it a by but would have accused the republicans and conservatives with a vengeance

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    Really if it had been a Clinton campaign office the liberal news media would not have given it a by but would have accused the republicans and conservatives with a vengeance
     
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    These paranoidal galoots could lash out in anger against decent Americans.

    We do not need any more Timothy McVeighs!

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    They live near your home and family and you cannot let or stop them.

    You are lying to call him a rapist and racist you have no proof of such false allegations.

    You are also lying to call him traitorous as you have no evidence of this.

    American values are not smearing people with false and childish accusations as you are doing.

    And I am not a Trump supporter
     
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    He's an alleged rapist, and a criminal who broke the law by hiring illegal immigrants, paying them less then minimum wage, and was successfully sued for doing so.

    Additionally, he is the absolute DEFINITION of a demagogue. That cannot be allowed to be denied.

    He is a hitlerian, hideous and odious toad of a man and must be dismissed for the vapid, disgusting racial hatred he is inspiring.
     
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    It would be the totalitarian left wing way of handling things. Do you propose reopening the democrat created concentration camps for Americans again?
     
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    Well most of that is opinion which you are entitled to and that is fine.

    But you DO consistently claim he is a rapist and traitor and racist without a shred of evidence. Allegations are not evidence many many false accusations of rape and sexual assault abound against many innocent people especially the rich and famous who have money. Notice how the only such allegations are in civil court asking for money. And suspiciously lacking in any credible verifiable evidence.

    Being succesfully sued for hiring illegals or underpaying is not evidence of any thing except yet another lawsuit which the wealthy must always endure

    Nor is there any evidence that he inspires racial hatred any more than Obama has inspired it.


    So hate the guy all you like no one cares but when you outright lie about it as you have you'll be called on your disgusting and foul values which are not american values or even decent values for anyone.

    Any and all politicians are equally demagogues including Hillary who is probably more of one. SO it is a meaningless point whether denied or not.
     
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    Iowa found out about trump-bot terrorists. He killed two cops...

    scott-michael-greene-blurred.jpg
    Hint: he's the one dressed in all camo and waving a rebel flag
     
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