Should "In God We Trust" Be Taken Off Of US Currency? What Would Follow?

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  1. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    And? To be technical, it invokes a "Creator."
    LOL... Of course it is. Far less. It bears no weight on our laws or government at this time.

    The Constitution is the foundational document of our Republic. The Declaration is just that - a Declaration. It bears no more legal significance than the Articles of Confederation. Less, in fact.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did the writers of the Constitution mean ?

    1) One thing is clear .. The founding fathers did not mean "The God of the Christians"

    2) Allah is the God of Abraham .. Same God as the Jews and Christians.

    3) The constitution was drafted to ensure that people were protected "from" religion .. not to unify them under any particular religion.
     
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    God Bless America....God Bless Our Constitution.....God Bless the Righteous Patriot.....God Bless the NRA.

    To anyone that dissagrees.....Catch the next boat out of here.

    Liberal Crap.​
     
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    E Pluribus Unum is fine, thanks. It's far more descriptive of the Republic's values.
     
  5. kmisho

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    Interesting. I rarely see anyone attempt to actually outline the justification.

    My only reply is that I think you have the basic rationale correct, but I also think that they, such as Thomas Jefferson, who put weight into the idea of natural rights knew full well they were on thin ice philosophically.

    I offer as evidence the last paragraph of Jefferson's 1786 Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom

    i.e. Anyone could repeal this law, but I'm going to declare this law a natural, hence irrevocable, right anyway.

    Did you get that? The great Thomas Jefferson simply Declares it. Given the care with which the law leading up to this paragraph is written, I think that if Jefferson had a rational justification for his notion of natural rights, he would have included it rather than simply Declare it.
     
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    kmisho New Member Past Donor

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    How about the ORIGINAL pledge of allegiance?:

    I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    No that will never do. We must have our divisive God.
     
  7. Room2talk

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    That was never suggested.

    Go back to beginning: the question. What would happen if "in God We Trust" was removed from the currency.

    I am not trying to establish who should own the name of God or who has monopoly on the name of God.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing .. currency would still be legal tender and life would go on.

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    If the majority of Americans wanted to keep 'In God We Trust' on the currency, you'd be okay with that wouldn't you? What do you anarchists have in mind?
     
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    I think you are confusing agnosticism with anarchism.

    Regardless I do not think the religion of citizens has anything to do with the issue.

    Constitutionally the state is not supposed to promote religion. I agree with the wisdom of the founding fathers in this matter.

    If folks wish to live in a country where society is governed by religious beliefs then I suggest a Muslim nation with sharia law.

    Is this what you wish ?
     
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    I don't know what anarchists want to do cause I don't enjoy chaos, but I just want our currency to reflect our Constitution - separation of religion and state.
     
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    There is no danger that this nation will ever be governed along religious lines such as a theocracy. The US is a republic with a constitution. I do think it is about time that the minority of atheists get used to the fact that the majority of people in this country are christians to one degree or another.

    And out of curiosity, what do you think the US would be IF even governed partially by a religion. Christian nations are vastly more tolerant than theocracies of other sorts.
     
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    Umm, the flag might have a cross on it. I doubt any other changes would occur. And I ain't even Christian!
     
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    How would you feel if the slogan was, "In satan we trust?"

    How about, "In Allah we trust?"

    What if it was, "In Buddha we trust?"

    Or perhaps, "In leprechauns we trust?"
     
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    It is exactly because of that danger that the Constitution was written.

    That constitution has been whittled away piece by piece by religious folk every since.

    At the core of the Constitution is Liberty and freedom from religion.

    Religious leaders lobbied successfully for prohibition, making prostitution illegal, store closing on sunday .. tried to ban pornography, tried to make abortion illegal, lobbied for stupid drinking laws, keeping pot illegal, and a bunch of other things that I have not mentioned.

    Vastly more tolerant than what, civilized democracies ? Not a chance

    You can walk down the street with a beer in China (and Europe for that matter) .. how many states can you not do that in the US

    No other "civilized" democracy puts pot smokers in Jail ..

    Religious people forcing their beliefs on others .. that is what the US has become.

    If you only believe in freedom for the things that you agree with .. your not for freedom and liberty at all.
     
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    Would you be okay with "In A God We Trust?" Why or why not?
     
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    Doesn't everyone consider their own God in the context of that quote. I had the impressions that the founding fathers did. They were all from different denominations.
     
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    Yes it should. Because it is a lie.


    This nation does not put its trust in God.
     
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    And hopefully, America will come up with some way to kick God's ass... yee haw!
     
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    Any mention of God should be taken off of everything associated with any level of government.
     
  21. Room2talk

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    Then what comes next?
     
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    Then what comes next.
     
  23. Room2talk

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    Did you get that synopsis from your research?
     
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    I'm not following...
     
  25. 1984society

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    I would be okay with that.
     

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