Should Palestinians Really Stay In Their Cage And Die?

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    Let me understand .

    You don’t believe in god.

    You don’t believe what Bible say to Joshua about “ god telling Joshua to take the land of Palestinian”

    But you quote Bible to tell us that Joshua committed genocide.

    It sound like you only believe the part of Bible which back-up your theory.
     
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    Why should I believe that a god commanded Joshua to do anything. That's the same as saying that Hitler's god commanded him to commit genocide like Joshua, given that Hitler was a Christian. And if Hitler confessed his sins then he is in heaven according to Christian beliefs, and unlike Joshua who isn't there since he didn't believe in Jesus.

    The bible is a book which was written by men for men, about a small group of men and their laws and paternalistic society, and their history and myths including their gods.
     
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  3. Endeavor

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    If you don’t believe in Bible or what is written in Bible, why are you bringing the story of Joshua from Bible like historical book. As far as I am concern Joshua could be someone’s imagination and Joshua never committed genocide because he never existed.
     
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    That's your choice if you don't believe what the bible says, and that Joshua and his murdering thugs butchered all the women and children in Jericho (Joshua 6:20-21) and Ai (Joshua 8:25-26) and Hebron etc (Joshua 10:1-40) and stole their land and blamed their god who they created in their images and likenesses.
     
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    So that's how you feel is the proper way to deal with genocidal regimes.....appeasement?

    Have you guys given up on denying that Netanyahu is committing genocide and are now stuck on shilling for ethnic cleansing?

    Israel's "Shill Mill" must be getting desperate.
     
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    Have you forgotten that Israel helped create Hamas in an effort to incite a civil war among the Palestinians?

    Now, you're arguing for a full scale genocide against Gaza's native residents most of whom are children. (1)

    Re:
    If you'd ever served in a military combat unit, you'd know that tactics and strategies vary from one situation to another.(2)
    IDF's casual attitude toward murdering innocent civilians is no different from the Hamas that Israel helped establish to foment civil war among the Palestinians.

    Please wake up and smell the genocide:

    “Jews Against Genocide statement and action”
    http://www.ijan.org/uncategorized/jews-against-genocide-statement-and-action/

    EXCERPT “We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

    We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another.” CONTINUED





    (1). "11,500 Children Have Been Killed in Gaza. Horror of This Scale Has No Explanation"
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/202...lanation/0000018d-6fe9-d4f1-a18d-fff9c4010000


    (2). "Israel is not fighting against Hamas but against civilians, implementing a criminal policy of bombings"
    https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/...ns_implementing_a_criminal_policy_of_bombings

    EXCERPT "More than two million people are currently crowded into the southern Gaza Strip with nowhere else to go. Continuing to implement this bombing policy will almost certainly result in the killing of thousands more civilians. In these circumstances, Israel must immediately stop implementing this policy, which is sowing more and more death and destruction, and worsening the humanitarian catastrophe in the Gaza Strip." CONTINUED
     
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    So you don't cherry pick either.

    Would you still support Israel if you discovered they were a black nation, like Ethiopia?
     
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    Please quit pretending to care about people whose genocide you enthusiastically support.

    You've only been deceived into hating people you've never met because you rely exclusively on blatantly pro Israel MSM (1)

    Since you've never been to the region or lived among its people it's that simple.

    You seem to have been duped into thinking that Netanyahu's long planned Gaza genocide is some sort of natural disaster or "house fire" over which no one has control.
    It's precisely that same appeasement mentality that has enabled most genocides throughout history.
    I suppose you also think that Europe should have been evacuated as a solution during WW 2 if people really cared about Europeans.

    Unsurprisingly, you are unaware of the previous genocidal Zionist "house fires" where mass murdering Zionists massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians beginning as far back as the invasion of Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs in the 1940s.

    You also seem unaware that Netanyahu has called more recent genocidal Zionist mass murders as "...mowing the grass"

    The solution to these "house fires" has existed all along and that is to treat all genocidal Zionist mass murderers the same.

    For example, we would not still be seeing these innumerable Zionist instigated "house fires" if the international community enforced all UN Resolutions equally.
    If UN Resolutions # 242 and # 338 had been enforced with the same military zeal as UN Resolution # 678, we wouldn't have Zionist set "house fires" like today's Gaza genocide.

    In spite of America's blatantly pro Israel MSM, more Americans than ever (2) are repulsed by the genocidal miscreants so dear to your heart.
    I hope as you get older, you'll eventually learn that genocidal monsters like Netanyahu and his henchmen cannot be appeased.

    Thanks,



    (1). “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

    EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

    Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with,..." CONTINUED


    (2). "Israel faces growing U.S. ire on war in Gaza"
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...el-gaza-war-poll-americans-opposed-rcna145418

    EXCERPT "Sheline's decision to follow suit came as a Gallup poll released Wednesday found that growing numbers of Americans now oppose Israel’s military action in Gaza, an apparent shift in U.S. views.

    The poll, conducted from March 1 to March 20, found that 55% of respondents said they disapprove of Israel's actions in Gaza, compared with 45% who expressed disapproval in November.

    The share of those in favor of Israel's actions fell from 50% in November to 36% in March, while the percentage of those who said they had no stance rose from 4% to 9%.

    The poll, which surveyed 1,016 adults living across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points." CONTINUED
     
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    You believe part of the Bible which you can use against Jews, but you don’t believe the part which support their claim.

    You believe Joshaua 6:20-21, Joshua 8:25-26 , Josua 10:1-40 but not Joshua 1:1-19. This must be modern day antisemitism.
     
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    IOW Joshua was an anti-Semite who used an imaginary god which they had created in their own images and likenesses to justify butchering all the Semites living in those towns and to steal their land.
     
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    Patent nonsense, half measure and temporizing are bad policy not bad tactics.There is no horror without hamas Blame Hamas for hiding war fighters among children so that whining simpletons would whine.Had this been done the first time Hamas attacked Israel this would not be happening now. And terror tunnels under houses mosques schools hospitals and markets would not exist under mining many of those structures.
     
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    Except they were also semites and didn't happen. and a better misunderstanding of the old testament could not be written.
     
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    IOW the term "anti-Semite" is a misnomer since most Semites are not Jews and not all Jews are Semites.
     
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    If I remember correctly , it was Palestinian who attacked Israel on Oct 7 . Israel just retaliated. If Palestinian didn't want Israeli retaliation, they should have not attacked Israel.
     
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    Should the Israeli hostages stay in their cage until they die? Word has that Hamas has “sold” some of them to other terrorist groups to use as bargaining chips in their hostage/prisoner exchange negotiations. Hamas no longer has control of an unspecified number of them, which is probably why they are dragging their feet on returning hostages.
     
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    Maybe you should look up some of my other post in different thread. I have been debating with others that Jesus is not white and Mary didn’t have blond hair.

    I am with you. Jews in 4 BC was much darker then today. Jews in 970 BC ( King Solomon’s era) were even more darker skin then 4 BC.

    Jesus and Mary’s portrait as White came from 8th century Monk who lived in Europe. Those Monk never been to Palestine, only Jews they ever seen are European Jews who had much lighter skin then 4 BC Jews in Palestine.
     
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    Today yes. I prefer the term Jewphobia myself. Much more specific and more indicative of the wholly unconnected to reality hatred of Jews.
     
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    Being caucasian does not make you white there is no such thing as a white race unless you're talking about albinos,
     
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    Yes that's a better term. Or "anti-Zionist" for those against the Zionists, such as Miriam Margolyes whose parents were Jewish.
     
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    So the guy who supports the Palestinians evacuating to safety until the war is over somehow supports genocide according to you

    While you, who claims genocide is happening but doesn’t want the Palestinians to go anywhere somehow does not support genocide.

    Lol!

    The problem is you don’t understand logical thinking so I have no doubt you’ll just nod your head to these contradictions and wonder what’s wrong with them. It’s why you can’t make accurate analogies and why you can’t argue in any way that makes sense. The most fundamental part is missing from your thought process

    But it does make sense how, failing at logical deduction, you wind up on the side of supporting terrorists and genocide. You’d have more success if you started flipping coins to arrive at your positions. Lol!
     
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    this destruction of religious black imagery began in earnest in the 16th century, about the time trans Atlantic slavery was peaking. During this Christian reform era inconoclasts began destroying biblical black images and replacing them with white figures.
    think of the black Madonnas across Europe which are from centuries earlier.

    The same happened with European nobility. Queen Elizabeth right, the red head. She was a black women, similar features to Beyonce but with curly hair but today she is portrayed as a white woman.
     
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    You either didn't read or didn't understand my Post # 108 because you refuse to explain how appeasing genocidal regimes is a solution to mass murder.
     
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    This is at least the 10th time I read someone try to justify Zionist genocide by pretending that the Palestine vs Israel conflict began on 7 October 2023.

    You're ignoring the fact that the Israel-Palestine conflict has been going on ever since the invasion of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs in the 1940s.
     
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    Evacuating a population to safety from the reach of a genocidal regime is confusing to you in this regard? How unfortunate for you.
     
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    How much time have you spent in and around Palestinian refugee camps?

    We both know that you have never set foot in one and seem unaware of earlier cyclical violence going on as far back as before the Nakba.

    The glee with which Israel's propagandists have welcomed the opportunity to claim that: "Hamas started it." only gives further support to the likelihood that certain people in Netanyahu's government knew about and wanted the attack to succeed in order to exterminate Gaza's native residents and seize Gaza for Zionist land thieves / "Greater Israel "
     

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