Should RFK be allowed to take part in the Presidential debate?

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Should RFK be allowed to take part in the Presidential debate?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    36.4%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Personally I say yes, he hasn't a hope of winning but his participation could still decide the result so he deserves a say.
     
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    He's intelligent so not likely to do well,

    Recall the G W Bush victory, he won largely because the public must not be jealous
    of his privileges and education, and therefore he acted less intelligent than he was.

    Sometimes the US public is a pain.
     
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  3. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    GW won because despite his privileged upbringing he still came across as an average American, he was relatable. That was Hillary's problem;

    Sarah Palin and Hillary Address the Nation - SNL (youtube.com)
     
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    I agree he should be able to participate in the debates, Bob, even though there isn't a chance in hell that I'd vote for a "tossed political salad" like RFK Jr.

    Honestly, I'm getting to the point where, for the first time in my long life, I'm seriously thinking about not voting at all. Both Biden and Trump make me want to puke, but for very different reasons. I've suggested before that a voter's choice this year is like a diner being offered either a lunch of either vomit or diarrhea -- but, who in his right mind would want either one?

    [​IMG] .Election Day, 2024!
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.

    The slippery slope argument is valid here. If you let in one minor kook, you have to let them all in.
     
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    How the hell is RFK as much a kook as Trump and Biden?? Don't tell me you are still going on about the vaccine thing that RFK has been proven correct about? I may not vote for RFK, mostly due to his stance on Israel, but he is most definitely not a kook.
    I say the more the merrier. I'd vote for Vermin Supreme over Trump or Biden.

     
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    But, Mamooth -- as it stands, we'll have a decayed, mentally-incompetent windup toy on one side of the stage, and a foaming-at-the-mouth megalomanic with a pronounced case of palilalia on the other side. Despite the fact that RFK Jr. is literally 'all over the ****ing place' politically, is he really any nuttier than either Biden or Trump?

    (Don't know what "palilalia" is? Helpful hint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palilalia ) :dog:
     
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    The real world doesn't pay any attention to your conspiracy theories.

    Nor yours.

    The Trump trial should have demonstrated that to you.
     
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    Well, the way you chopped up my reply to you, it doesn't make sense, but you did it anyway.

    OK, look -- I'm one of those 'unaffiliated Independents' that make up an ever larger percentage of American voters this year -- I don't want "Big Guy" Biden, and I don't want a deceitful megalomaniac like Trump in the White House again. So, I don't HAVE a candidate, and, from what I've seen so far, I sure as hell don't want RFK Jr., either -- but, this year especially, I think all three of them should be up there on that stage in a free and open debate!

    Suggestion: in exchanges of this kind, at least do others the courtesy of quoting them in a way that makes sense.
     
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    Suggestion: Don't start with insane statements like "decayed wind up toy."

    If you want to be treated seriously, you need to act like a serious person.
     
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    I voted yes, but there’s a depends attached. If RFK Jr. gets on enough state ballots to achieve the 270 electoral votes to win, then he should be included. Any candidate who can achieve 270 electoral votes should be allowed to participate in the first debate. We used to have 3 presidential debates. My thoughts for the 3 debates was a 270 electoral vote threshold for the first debate. A 400 electoral vote threshold for the second debate with a 500 electoral vote threshold for the third and final debate.


    This year it seems there will be two. Make it 270 and 400. Regardless of the polls, you can’t win unless you can achieve 270 electoral votes. If a candidate can get on enough state ballots to achieve that 270 electoral votes, that candidate deserves to be heard. If not, then we live in a pick and choose democracy. A democracy that denies a candidate/s a chance to be heard in order to preserve our two party monopoly on our elections system.
     
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    Oh, I get it... snotty descriptions about megalomaniac-Trump are OK -- BUT -- any snotty description about "Big Guy" Biden is strictly VERBOTEN... nicht war...?

    [​IMG]."They'll call me the greatest president of the Twentieth Century!" :woot:
     
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    So you are against making vaccines adhere to the same safety standards as other medications? Why?
     
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    It's hard to say whether he has the drive to get votes and the have the influence to drive people away from Trump and Biden. It's pretty hard to tell at this time. We'll have to wait and see in due time.
     
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    Should he be averaging 15+ percent in the polling average of respected polls, then he should receive an invitation...
     
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    LOL I used exactly that same image to illustrate my opinion of a second Bush v Clinton showdown in 2016 before Trump took off.
     
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    JFK, Jr. would be a distraction and therefore a help to Joe Biden. I said, "Yes," because he seems to have 10% + of the vote at the moment.

    And, no, I would never vote for him. He's just another progressive who happened to grab headlines because of his stance of vaccines.
     
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    RFK Jr.'s a 'weird duck' for sure! He has both very Left-wing, and, very Right-wing positions on different topics. But, whether he's a weird duck or not, he should be allowed to stand up there with the two "turkeys" that 'Pubs and 'Crats offer voters this year. It might be delightful to see him just nettle the hell out of both Trump and Biden! :twisted:
     
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    I don't see the benefit of a wild card player being judged a winner or a loser based on the damage he did to "their" candidate.
    If he also demanded a drug test of all three of them, he would not be a democrat BFF any more. It is all about the damage he can do to the other guy.
    Forgettaboutit.
    BUT. If he was polling at 33% then yes.
     
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    I believe RFK would be frontrunner of both parties ...if he had honest and equal coverage of his platform by corporate media.

    ...then again, that could probably be said of thousands of Americans who would be better POTUS than any of them.

    I voted yes. RFK would be 10x better than Trump and 100x better than Biden.
     
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    Or he was educated but not intelligent. Likely that was the case.

    RFK is genuinely intelligent. Intelligent people can not only be taught, but also teach themselves.
     
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    No. RFK is a toolbag.
     
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    On what do you base that assessment?
     
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    RFK Jr. could indeed be a frontrunner of both parties, if only because he's such a 'tossed salad' of very Conservative AND very Liberal viewpoints. It's really hard for me to understand how he can believe so many of one kind of 'thing' at the same time that he believes so many of the other kinds of 'things'.

    No... the only "Kennedy" I would want to be President of the United States in 2024 is not available because he was murdered in November 1963....

    [​IMG] . There's no one at all like him in the Democrat Party today!
     
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    I say no because he is an annoying TWONK who should never be allowed near any sort of platform given his involvement in vaccine related deaths
     
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