Should we increase our intake of refugees?

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    I cant believe that people still shop at Woolworths when there is an Aldi shop available.
    Woolworths are just ripping everyone off by about 10 to 20%....
     
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    I don't shop at Aldi because the profits go back to Germany.
    i don't know whether it's better to support Australian workers by shopping at Aldi and buying cheaper food, or better to support Australian businesses and workers by shopping at Coles/Woolies/IGA and paying higher prices.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Well you go ahead and support Woolworths, and let me know how much extra money youve
    thrown down the gurgler at the end of the year...Coles, I must admit, from my experience, are
    cheaper than Woolworths by far...
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    you don't see my dilemma?
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Its not a dilemma...its a no brainer....you look after number one...you...
    Woolworths screw the producers no matter what they charge you by giving them
    stuff all for their products and then charge you more than Coles and Aldi...theyre freakin thieves...
    ...and you want to support them......
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why would you want to be sending money to Germany?
    We need it here. Shopkeepers are there to make money- they don't run charities. So, profits to Germany or to Australia?
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    So you become the charity when you shop at Woolworths and pay 10/20% more for your groceries...
    As you have declared yourself a charity...perhaps I can send you some money to help make up the difference....
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please do.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I only shop with Aldi or Coles if I need to have groceries delivered... Woolworths is too expensive
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm lucky in that there are farmers markets in my area. I don't shop around for supermarket stuff- reasoning that they will all be fairly similar price wise. I still couldn't use Aldi even if they are cheapest.
     
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    We haven't had a Woolworths (we used to call them Woolies lol) for about 3 or 4 decades. It seems a bit weird that they're still going strong elsewhere. :eyepopping:
     
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    We call them Woolies too.
     
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    The farmers market produce is extremely high quality, my kids eat the tomatoes like lollies when I buy from the farmers market, full of flavour (especially where I live - my area won the most outstanding region for fresh produce in August 2018 ).. but it's not cheap,

    I respect your decision, I wish I could do that but I already spend round $300 a week on groceries...
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm glad my kids are grown up- they cost a fortune and not just in food.
     
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    That's what this thread is about, some of the comments are pure migrant/refugee bashing.....
    Our town could easily accommodate 50 more families, as everything is in place.
    Reg.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    That is correct,
    Aldi works on a 3 to 4% profit, Coles and Woolies at around 7 to 8%.
    Reg.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,
    don't see it this way, I give you an example.
    Years back there was only one IGA in MR (Margaret River), and people bought there. Than Coles openend up, and people got used to having a second supermarket. Years later Woolies opened its first shop in MR, and I heard some locals saying they wouldn't buy from Woolies, as they'd destroy the others, meaning the other two supermarkets. It didn't happen....
    I don't know what percentage (after taxes) Aldi will take back to Europe, but as they work on a smaller margin (profit), it would indicate that they take less to Europe as compared to Woolies. They will take back more to the US.
    I am happy with having another choice, but our Saturday markets (farmers produce) is a must go....
    Cheerio
     
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    Aldi actually works of a solid profit. This is because they have very few local suppliers as a percentage of their business. The parent company purchases the goods from overseas and sells them to Aldi Australia who pay the parent company in Euro I guess. They then have little margin to work off which in turn decreases their company tax paid here in OZ. Win win for Aldi, lose, lose for Australia.

    I refuse to use Aldi as a large portion of their food is manufactured in China, even though it is badged from another country. China has effectively been bringing their food into the country via labelling from another country. Coles and Woolies are just as guilty, but to a lesser extent as we hold them to a different set of standards than we do Aldi.......for some strange reason!

    Just because it says product of ???? Doesn’t mean the ingredients came from there. Just means it was produced there. I think Australia is one of the few countries that are working on effective labelling, both Coles and Woolies are begrudgingly accepting and slowly changing their labelling. However it is not law as yet, just a firm recommendation. Aldi has refused point blank and explains that it does not fit with its business model and if made law they would have to seriously consider future Australian expansion.

    Aldi are not hiding anything. They just sell you what you want to pay for.......absolute sh!t. Australians will never learn.
     
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    Isn't it amazing, talking about buying Australian and we get into a talk about the major stores.

    Coles, Woolworths, Aldi and Metcash(IGA’s and so on) We cannot compete with the majors by playing the same game as the majors it is that simple. In the defence of many Australian’s they don’t care about who is selling them their products as long as it is predominantly cheaper.

    There is a considerable understanding that their local will provide the best they can for decent price with the assumption of preference for local produce. In other words, Australian’s take it for granted decent and ethical practices when it comes to stores they visit. It has been made more comfortable to accept the ideal with the promotion of charity and aide to community, regardless of what community.

    Just in this thread we have promotion of what is the better major over another and many justifications of why. I am sure there will be more to come.

    I had previously and often complained the lack of credibility in Australian labelling and since new labelling laws have been shown to be 110% RIGHT. Way to pat myself on the back. However, after the self-glorification subsides, these majors while tossing few crumbs at the charities are clearly not supporting business, workers or customers. Aldi makes no excuse in any way, they simply sell the cheapest they purchase at the time of purchase. But the others all pretend to be working with Australia to grow and support it.

    We also have to look at our government who not only provides an atmosphere for failure but actively promotes it through subsidies.
     
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    Most Australians are ignorant by choice when it comes to the long term ramifications of their present day insular choices. There is and always has been only one inhibitor of big business and that is small business. Most people either do not realise this or do not care to. Once small business ceases to exist so does choice to the consumer.

    That dollar or two we save right now is going to cost us ten fold in decades to come. But hey I am minority it seems. I guess it has been my dealings with both big and small business over the many years that gives me a more rounded perspective on the relationship between the two.

    While Woolies and Coles dish you up lies, Aldi dishes you up Sh!t in a tin. You save a buck, get a smile, and a curious sensation of doom.
     
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    Yes the willing stupid I call it. But really it seems very strange that they continue to promote the very unethical practices or the major stores while pretending to care for their nation. They turn to government and demand action while walking through the majors on their search cucumbers and kippers for their afternoon garden parties. Without even looking to understand what they are buying and who benefits.


    Forget the fact, government only works to provide the demands of the people. They are to blame for the failure of manufacturing and business in Australia. It doesn’t occur to them it is they who can make a difference. Buy local where they can, buy Australian were possible. Most of all don’t promote an atmosphere of too big to fail for business who take more from the nation than gives to it…
     
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    Yes I remember many years ago giving a speech to a local governments conference in regards to the pros and cons to localised purchasing and the degradation of community from local government outsourcing and private sub contracting. I remember the mayors and chosen local councilors nodding their approval and their CEO beancounters scowling at the thought. When accountants get involved true growth potential can never be realised.

    A dollar spent locally has the potential to generate millions, but a dollar spent out of town or overseas is only worth a dollar, and in our case right now a lot less.
     
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    See,
    as our town is quite small(ish), we don't have the privilege of either Coles, Woolies or Aldi. An IGA is all we have, with a limited offer. So I have to drive to do some decent shopping.
    So I just imagine, if more people would be moving to our town again (and I welcome refugees or migrants), we might have a second store one day.
    And a school full of kids....Our infrastructure is in place, by the way, and working.
    There is no question that life in rural WA is harder, but maybe some of those who are left to rot in hellholes (like Nauru or simlar) would love to take the chance....
    For some on this forum, as they are obviously not informed well, there are plenty of small towns with dwindling numbers.....
    Reg.
     
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    Out of curiosity are you female, and your full name Regina?
     

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