Since so many eyewitnesses heard boms/explosions, why would the NIST be so adament...

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Thats all true to the hopelessly indoctrinated or delusional mind. The rest of us live in the real world.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it is you and the gullible twoofers who are indoctrinated and delusional.

    You may as well go buy a bridge in brooklyn you have fallen for a massive con
     
  3. Scott

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    The proof that the US government planned and carried out the attacks is crushing.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456423&p=1066183060#post1066183060

    Once the viewers have seen it, there's really nothing you can do to make them think that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. All you can do is try to keep them from seeing the proof.
     
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    What it really is is overwhelming proof the OCT is a massive lie, a coverup and the basis for a sinister agenda being carried out and propagated under pretext of 9/11. Even if elements within the US government did not actively participate in the planning of or the 9/11 event itself, the conduct of the US government following 9/11 can be best described as treasonous complicity. In other words, the US government may as well have been deeply involved even if it wasn't, there is not much of a difference.

    Having said that, there is also overwhelming circumstantial evidence that elements within the US government were deeply involved in both the planning and the act.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no proof of a lie or coverup or a OCT.

    Your repeated assertions are not evidence nor are the various you tube movies you post
     
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    Specifically what test did you want performed? On what material?
     
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    This guy talks about the explosions.

    9/11 and How to Proceed - Graeme MacQueen on GRTV
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Yep now that nist has been busted with their pants around their ankles even the most hard core oct supporters are forced to face the truth.
     
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    I don't know one who has despite the overwhelming evidence. They're all in denial. It's similar mentality to those who still think Trump won the election by a landslide.
     
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    as far as trump goes there is no way to know unless a full independent investigation is held. I have no love for either side, just whats fair. For me it does not matter what label winds up sitting in that office this election was unfair, as was the last 4 elections. This one however was in our faces fraud, and it will only get worse because its up to the people committing fraud to police themselves and revise the election process and when do we think that will happen? Oh yeh right after the octers admit their role in the 911 fraud! :omfg:
     
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    Wrong.

    You keep using that expression and it is a bald faced lie.

    There is no evidence or proof that the US government carried out the attacks. Just as there is no evidence that the lunar landings wer efaked. You have been schooled humiliated and proven wrong EVERY TIME.

    There is no official conspiracy theory and the NIST report stands unchallenged and untouched.

    Those are facts which none of the gullible people on here like Kokomojojo or Bobn can touch. Like you they have been proven wrong every time on thousands of threads.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

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    spare us, all you posted here is the typical unquoted unsupported foaming at the mouth blather.
    Trolls babble, people capable of having discussion post citations.
    Stop back some time IF you can produce something of value to the conversation.
     
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    I am stating facts and you know it you never post evidence and have been pwned
     
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    The most hard core OCT supporters, 20 years later, are deeply afflicted with cognitive dissonance. They will not face or utter the truth because it hurts them.
     
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    Come over to this thread and we can talk about it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068


    You're trying to mislead those viewers who haven't taken the time to look at the research.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...orted-9-11-terrorists.456423/#post-1066183060

    You're not going to take in anyone who actually looks at it.
     
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    No I am not misleading anyone.

    There is no evidence to look at.

    Decades after the fact and no one has produced evidence.

    I have been on your idiotic lunar gthreasds and watched you ghet consistently owned and proven wrong. You never talk about it. You only repeat the same tired debunked lies and ignore the evidence which crushes your delusional claims.
     
  18. Bob0627

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    While it's true the choices are always between 2 evils, in this case one evil was way over the top. There was no choice, either 4 more years of total insanity or a chance at something better. 60+ lawsuits and over 80 judges and in each case no evidence presented or even any valid legal argument in support of massive voter fraud. I voted for the first time in decades, not because I like Biden or any political party but because this was literally a matter of life and death. In fact no apology from Biden can erase his support of his aggressive plans that eventually led to war crimes in the Middle East. Let's see what happens. The difference is that the evidence for controlled demolition on 9/11 is overwhelming, the evidence for massive voter fraud is non-existent. It's a scam perpetrated by Trump who was trying to hedge his bets well before the election in case he lost.
     
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    I assure you there was massive voter fraud. I see this all the time, many have gotten busted for it, and I dont mean a few bozos who cant change the election anyway, I mean people counting and charged with the security of the process.

    Bob, diebolds site was wide open! No hacking required. Just pop on and download all their software for the voting machines! Hackers were able to swing the vote in less than 10 seconds!

    Voting requirements can only be changed by the state legislatures. Mail in votes from the general public is not legal in PA. They did it anyway. It doesnt matter which side of the isle you are on, the voting process et all is so insecure its a waste of time. Some election official just got put away for a local election, I hear about election fraud all the time.

    Fraud removes the power of the vote from the people and places it solely in the hands of those that would hack the process. This mail in voting process was wholy illegal in PA and several other states.


    Pennsylvania

    In Pennsylvania, a voter who qualifies for an emergency absentee ballot may authorize in writing a representative to return their ballot. If an authorized representative is not available, a deputy sheriff or constable may deliver and return the emergency ballot.

    In the event any elector otherwise qualified who becomes so physically disabled or ill between five o'clock P.M. on the first Friday preceding any primary or election and eight o'clock P.M. on the day of any primary or election that he is unable to appear at his polling place or any elector otherwise qualified who because of the conduct of his business, duties or occupation will necessarily be absent from the municipality of his residence on the day of the primary or election, which fact was not and could not reasonably be known to said elector prior to five o'clock P.M. on the first Friday preceding any primary or election, the elector shall be entitled to an absentee ballot if the elector completes and files with the court of common pleas in the county in which the elector is qualified to vote an Emergency Application or a letter or other signed document, which includes the same information as is provided on the Emergency Application.  Upon a determination that the elector is a qualified absentee elector under section 1301, the judge shall issue an absentee ballot to the elector.  If the elector is unable to appear in court to receive the ballot, the judge shall give the elector's absentee ballot to an authorized representative of the elector who is designated in writing by the elector.  The authorized representative shall deliver the absentee ballot to the elector and return the completed absentee ballot, sealed in the official absentee ballot envelopes, to the county board of elections, who shall distribute the ballot, unopened, to the absentee voter's election district.  If the elector is unable to appear in court or unable to obtain assistance from an authorized representative, the judge shall direct a deputy sheriff of the county to deliver the absentee ballot to the elector if the elector is at a physical location within the county and return the completed absentee ballot, sealed in the official absentee ballot envelopes, to the county board of elections, who shall distribute the ballots, unopened, to the absentee voter's respective election district.  If there is no authorized representative and a deputy sheriff is unavailable to deliver an absentee ballot under this section, the judge may direct a constable to make such delivery in accordance with the provisions of this section.[3]


    https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_(ballot_collection)_laws_by_state

     
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    Yet no evidence of any massive voter fraud was ever filed with any of the 60 odd court cases initiated by the Trump team. All these cases are public information, you can subscribe to Pacer to get all the details. Do you really believe more American voters wanted 4 more years of Trump insanity than to get rid of this slimebag? Regardless, any legal challenge to voting laws, mechanisms and protocols in each state had to be done well before the election, not afterward.
     
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    Gosh Bob, 60 lawsuits and 80 judges could not possibly have the same fate as the lawsuit filed by the Lawyers Committee for 911 Truth, could they?
     
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    There is no evidence of a stolen election or election fraud on a scale which would change the outcome.

    There is also zero evidence of controlled demolition on 911 which has been proven time and again making your claim an outright lie.
     
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    There is a huge difference between the 2 issues:

    1. The Trump team desperately wanted to overturn the election any possible way they could. If they had any evidence at all, they would have filed it with any one of those lawsuits. They did not produce any or it did not stand up to scrutiny. And to be sure they had massive resources. They also alleged fraud but when directly asked by at least one judge if they were alleging fraud, the answer was no. So they had no case at all, not supported by evidence and not even supported by legal argument. Several of these cases were presided by Trump appointed judges. Also several states where they alleged voting discrepancies conducted multiple hand counts and recounts, none resulting in any significant difference from the automated counts.

    2. The Lawyers' Committee currently has 2 legal initiatives and a 3rd one on the way, not 60. In these cases, they have filed a ton of evidence along with solid legal arguments. These cases have yet to be litigated in terms of actually addressing the evidence and the facts. One was dismissed for lack of standing and is being appealed. Lack of standing is ONLY defense being used so far.

    There is not one iota of similarity between the 2 issues. I'm no fan of the judiciary but common sense has it that if there was any possibility of a case for massive voter fraud, any Trump friendly judge would not have dismissed a case so easily and so quickly. Not to mention the evidence would be readily available.
     
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    There is no difference between the two.

    The legal teams you refer to in the 911 case have filed suits with NO evidence.
     
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    Because it was ordained that no criminal investigation into 911 was to be conducted, and so no criminal investigation was ever conducted by any federal, State or local law enforcement agency.
     
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