Sins of Heterosexuals

What's a sin?

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) is fun. Caress the girl that you love. Fornicate in every posture, oral sex, anal sex, everything.

Masturbate yourself when you're watching porn. (*)(*)(*)(*) one day with one girl and the next with other, obviously without being married. That's fantastic. That's good. A pleasure that everybody should not lose.

And if you're very nice you should try to have a trio. Have sex with two pretty girls at same time. That is incredible.

Sins, who give a (*)(*)(*)(*) of the sins? We aren't in the XIV Century. We are in the XXI century. Enjoy your life and your freedom.

 

If everyone agrees to it (swingers come to mind), its a non issue. Harms no one. Not a sin.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

#1 use? Citation? Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

Depends on the situation, in the situation you mentioned, I would agree.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

I would agree to a certain extent.

Harms no one, non issue. Should not be considered a sin.

A doctrine of fear.

 

Again, we see:

a. the abandonment of science.

b. Self worship.

If you want a case in rationalization and the power of sex to control your life look no further than this post.

Prostitution harms no one? In certain cases? Despite the overwhelming evidence of human trafficking to support said demand? Not too mention simple human degredation?

Fornication is proven, over time, to result in severe self esteem issues and depression (particularly in women), but, heh, as long as our resident curmudgeon gets his rocks off.

Adultry? Sure, violate the trust of your spouse, dioshonor your word, be an ******** - who cares? Can you get more selfish than this?

I will stop there, this rationalized trite stands in stark and revealing contrst to the word of God. You can choose it, the consequneces will still arrive.

 

And this is what Satanism preaches.

Once again, do we see the differences?

 

lol

Like I said, it depends. It depends if the contract is mutual. Its unlikely so I don't grant it much thought.

Depends, I prefer sex in relationships. I almost despise the thought of "meaningless sex", "no strings attached", or what have you. Its for those afraid of commitment.

: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery

I believe this would apply to swingers, your conspiracy need not apply.

This would be the case if i was advocating the worst of the worst. However I am not. It is obvious.

 

So, now you advocate the swinging lifestyle do you?

You advocate raising children in an environment where mom and dad bring home strange people all the time and rail them? Whose social activity centers around getting screwed? And of course, while totally in support of created such a sex centered relationship for children we have statements like:

Indeed it is a fear of commitment, not just to anyone woman, but to standards, accountability, and a sex life centered on genuine love and affection.

Again, its statements like this that cause most theologians to classify atheism is self worship.

Its all about the self. Enjoys sex free of commitments, but if you are promiscuous its because you fear commitments. Consequences will still arrive.

 

Ok. And? Is that bad satanism? Satan in the bible represents: Freedom

Satanism is nice. Black Metal and burning churches rules

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTH9AwCaM8I"]Gorgoroth - Possessed (By Satan) - YouTube[/ame]

 

So pathetic. Show me were I mentioned children? Of course if the couple had children there would be some serious issues to be had there. There would be something fundamentally wrong in my mind if parents of small children were swinging.

If I mention swingers, then below that state I almost despise "no strings attached", then am I really advocating swinging? Use your mind once in a while, you are bound to write less foolish posts.

Its not just men who advocate the no strings road, its women too. Its sad that, at least in my area, that seems to be more popular than a relationship. But I guess spending time with one person is boring compared to the multitudes. :/

 

Satan is just another man made myth. Like 'god',leprechauns, gnomes, unicorns, etc.

Since satan is the opposite of 'god' then you are saying that god does exist. Neither does. IT would be nice if people lived in reality.

 

Furthermore, Satan is the symbol for unethical behavior.

People who take up "Satanism" are simply looking for attention. I don't view it as a constructive concept.

 

Yeah. But is a good tool to make fun of religious people. My post was a bit trolling post.

 

Or, its terrorism.

Not hard to see the difference in what you choose to follow is it?

 

Nah, your post was just a demonstration of emotional immaturity at the center of atheism.

Really, you acknowledge you are trolling, and somehow YOUR misconduct make us look bad?

Trolling is now fine is it atheists?

Please remember that when I chastize atheists for existing for no other reason than to put other people down.

Once again, notice the utter and complete failure of even a single atheist to bring a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)r to task. What a shock.

 

I don;t believe I claimed you mentioned children.

I claimed that you supported swinging as a wholesome lifestyle. However, when children are introduced .... hmmmm, not so wholesome anymore. Go figure. Maybe you should address WHY it would not be wholesome for children? Follow that line of thought, be skeptical about your claims in line with your veneration of skepticism?

Because what you malign is what the Bible states is ideal. A man who is husband and father, loving, providing and serving his wife and children. A woman who is mother, wife, nuturing, supportive, loving, and in serving her husband and children. Children raised in warmth, affection, provided for, loved, and whom serve their parents. Did you notice how each part of that instance serves the other?

Terrible fear based stuff we preach isn't it?

So, best to reject this 'fear', in favor of swinging.

How can it be sad? According to you it hurts no one. It does, and we both know it. One of knew it before you made such a silly claim.

 

Um..... No I didn't. I said it harmed no one, therefore not a sin in my eyes. Far from ideal or "wholesome".

While I enjoyed the conspiracy theory you threw out there it is inaccurate. I quite honestly do not care what the Bible has to say concerning the management of a family. If my point of view just so happens to agree with the teachings of the Bible then its a non-issue. Ghandi or Hitler could agree with what I am saying and have little effect on my opinion. I don't have any disagreements with what you example of a supportive family, the two partners are equal, and the children to learn from the parents. I haven't any issues with this.

I guess I few a family with young children whose parents are swingers as unstable, I do not have any evidence to support this notion. Just an assumption.

It harms no one, there are a multitude of acts and activities that harm no one that I do not wish to partake in. "No strings attached" does not harm anyone assuming the two parties are single, uncommitted, etc etc etc. As for me finding it sad, I just view it as immature. It would seem like if you like someone enough to do the dew you could certainly consider a certain level of commitment.

I have been there, done that, and do not wish to return.

 

Agh, so God is correct. It is sin.

Glad you agree.

Unfortunately, the world does not revolve around you.

And the issue is that you claimed all the sexual stuff in the OP listed as sin was utterly harmless, not a sin, fine, should be tolerated and accepted.

Except, when we examine them .... oops. They should not be.

Science says that raising children in such a sexually permissiable environment is bad.

Yes it does. Just like a single drink will not kill you, sustained alcohol abuse will eventually kill you, so to can sex. Promiscuity is directly tied to lower self esteem, particularly in young women, depression, increased risks of suicide and other self destructive behavior including sexual addiction (often leading to the use of prostitutes) and numbing effect of affection and a, pardon the expresion, retardation of relationships.

No harm, eh?

Science disagrees.

Why not? It harms no one.

 

Trolling is fine when you read extremist religious posts that the only reaction that provoque is make fun of them. You know, don't have funny beliefs and I won't laugh at it.

And the nonsense of the satanism just had a possible answer. Make fun on it. It was so ridiculous that no serious answer can be given.

 

Are you physically unable to read and comprehend the words of which you just read? I am just curious now.

Is swinging harmless? Yes.
Is swinging when you have young children harmless? I doubt it.

Is killing bad? Yes.
Is killing someone who has just broken into your home bad? No.

There are exceptions to every "rule".

I do believe you are correct, however I would like to see some citations to satisfy my own curiosity.

I don't disagree with what you say on this issue, however I see it as being the opposite. The promiscuity I do not believe leads to a lower self esteem, I believe it is the opposite, the low self-esteem leads to the promiscuity. Whatever issues are causing the lack of self-worth will likely effect a persons behavior, in this case distancing themselves from the possibility of an intimate relationship. I do not see the behavior effecting self-worth in the same way that self-worth will effect behavior.

 

Why should anyone care what you consider a sin? Not everyone has the same religious views as you. What do you wish to discuss with this thread? Your mind seems pretty much made up.

 

Science does not provide value judgments, since value judgments are always subjective.

 

A highly pigmented heterosexual stole my car once. Lowdown heterosexuals!

 

Trolling violates the forum rules and requires the intellectual ability of a troll.

Glad to see that the intellectual ability of atheists is spent on defending the stupid and unsupportable.

And you guys say we lack the ability to support our beliefs?

Troll away.

THe difference is palpable. The correct choice, obvious.

 

Science does indeed indicate which choices have benefits over time. So does logic. Science may not care about which is better, but human beings do.

Basically, you are telling me you care about neither?

Well, that is a choice to.

 

What do you propose be done about this?