So video games are "self-worship"?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You asked questions and I answered I haven't really seen anything that posted that I could agree with or disagree with
    I believe I have says multiple times it is a trinity. Do you need me to explain what that means?
    Are super natural beings governed by biology? If so explain.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Jesus is not God, yes or no?

    did Mary give birth to Jesus, yes or no?

    was God the father, yes or no?

    simple questions.... but I get it, hard to answer....
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Jesus is part of the trinity.
    I'm not sure that was ever being debated at all at any point.
    I'm still going to say Yahweh is the father a distinct person that is different from Jesus whether or not you accept that is not an issue I have that's an issue with you.

    I've provided simple answers multiple times now you can ask me a thousand more times the answers are always going to be the same.
     
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    this is what wiki had to say


    This doctrine is called Trinitarianism and its adherents are called trinitarians, while its opponents are called antitrinitarians or nontrinitarians. Christian nontrinitarian positions include Unitarianism, Binitarianism and Modalism.

    While the developed doctrine of the Trinity is not explicit in the books that constitute the New Testament, the New Testament possesses a triadic understanding of God[7] and contains a number of Trinitarian formulas.[8][9] The doctrine of the Trinity was first formulated among the early Christians and fathers of the Church as they attempted to understand the relationship between Jesus and God in their scriptural documents and prior traditions.[10]

    Though the Trinity is mainly a Christian concept, Judaism has had paralling views, especially among writings from the kabballah tradition.[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
     
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    I see Christian claims of self-worship as a form of projection and an ad hominem argument designed to dodge factual arguments. They would rather accuse you of having evil motives for not believing their claims than argue about the validity of the claims in question, since they obviously have no leg to stand on.
     
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    agree, the Bible is quite clear that Jesus is the Son of God, and that God is Jesus father

    Christians never could have converted the Jews of the time had they claimed Jesus was God, but saying he was the Son of God worked on many
     
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    Yeah, but remember that the word is god and the word was god. Jesus is the son of god but they are the same substance, the same being.

    You can read the New Testament both ways especially depending on the version of the bible you are reading. The King James is very predisposed to Trinity by constantly referring to holy spirit as The Holy Ghost which makes it sound like an actual being instead of a state of mind.
     
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    Which part, playing video games or watching movies?

    As for the fellas name, I always thought it was Hallowed.
     
  9. FreshAir

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    it's kinda like a magic eight ball
     
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    Christians can't prove all the other God's are not real either, so how do you choose?
     
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    I won't get into the "GOD-NO GOD" argument. No one ever wins.
    But I will ask about one thing. I'm an old guy that's not much into video games. I note you mention one called "Grand Theft Auto". Are there any games with titles like "Provide for Your Family", "Get a Promotion", "Win that Scholarship", "Become a Surgeon", "Pay Off Your Mortgage", or anything like that?
     
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    Jesus IS God. What are you, a Nestorian heretic?
     
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    Not specifically with those titles, no. Video games are very goal oriented though and often people who use them become goal oriented because they are always trying to level up. Some people apply that mentality and terminology to their real life. So they may see themselves as being entry level at a job but see themselves as levelling up as they gain experience.
     
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    I remember a game that was popular back in the days of green screens. It was all words... questions, etc. You started out in the mail room. The decisions you made either got you fired or got you promoted. You had a shot at engineering, accounting, sales, marketing, budgeting and just about everything in the company. The last situation was some potential customer who had contacted you thirty questions back. He was interested in a huge purchase and asked if you would call him back. If you had kept his number you called and won the game... if you failed to save his number you couldn't call him back and you were fired. Lots of great lessons to be learned in that game.
     
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    Thats up to the individual to decide. Everyone has different degrees and types of acceptable evidence they use to make that determination.
     
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    exactly, you can't force a national religion, people must ALWAYS be free to choose for themselves
     
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    If we are all 100% honest, there is no binary answer to that. I know religious people LOVE to have a world where EVERYTHING is binary and black and white, but the truth is much more complicated.

    But let's play this game anyway: As a believer I would say True. Then there would no longer be a point of contention. Later, I might qualify "but not the deity as described in the Bible" but that's not the question.

    If I say False, you might say "You cannot prove it!" Then I will say "You made the assertion. I did not"

    I suppose not. Maybe you will hear those statements made from the lectern on the weekend, but it's silly to follow up with "And now eat this bread and drink this wine"

    My only halfhearted defense is to not take life and yourself too seriously. There is beauty even in failure as a handful of writers and philosophers have stated. You only live once. By the way, don't do drugs because then you WILL take things too seriously with using drugs as a crutch and things escalate to the serious with needlessly destroying your body.
     
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    I'm just an old fart watching silly wokeness take over the earth.
    I have a question.
    You say there is no "binary" answer. Has the word "binary" become vogue because some silly snoflake was offended and viewed "black and white" as racist? (God knows that these "wokists" can find racism in a bowl of tomato soup.)
     
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    So video games are "self-worship"?

    I must be a god in my own lunchbox then. I'm 53 and have been since I was 27. I kick my two boy's butts in multiplayer shooters.
     
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    I'm a Schleptorian slipstick.
     
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    The point of "binary" is that there is "yes" and there is "no" and there is nothing in between - the basis of the computer technology we all are exposed to.

    You need to be careful about your panic about "wokeness". Some of this simply has to do with advances in technology, etc.
     
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    And yet can't see it in themselves.

    I recently discovered the new word "BIPOC".

    As if People of Colour (not coloured people!) wasn't bad enough. People of Colour means not-white-people, grouping us by race and marginalizing us from the white people. Then BI means Black and Indigenous and they append that to POC to give special importance to Black and Indigenous and put all the rest of us into generic POC.

    Liberal anti-racism is about placing no importance on race. Woke "anti-racism" is about putting all importance on race.
     
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    Those of us who are liberals really really need to highlight this distinction. Woke is not liberal. Woke is anti-liberal. Don't let conservatives brand liberal as woke. They can hate us on our actual disagreements, sure, but don't let them confuse this woke anti-liberalism as liberalism.
     
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    Well woke us originally a term used by the descendants of slaves to indicate that they are aware of the systemic oppression that they still experience as an ethnic group and visible minority.

    It has evolved into including all these other groups that express their own feelings of being oppressed which have less traction with the general public.

    If we are referring to woke in it’s original form it’s not so bad.
     
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    I don't think anybody still uses woke in its original form. By it I mean anti-liberal pretend anti-racist racism etc. The people who try to tell me what I must think as a "POC", who seek to make us all identify foremost by race and gender, and who put forth quotas for same or legislation like the Ontario Pay Equity Act.

    That Act requires employers to declare jobs they have as "male" or "female" gendered jobs (usually by which gender traditionally or primarily fills them) and then ensure that female gendered jobs are paid at least as much as (not equal to) male gendered jobs. Doubly sexist, but pretending to be the opposite.
     
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