So When Do REPUBS IMPEACH BIDEN?

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I said nothing of "Capitol Leadership". Ill wait here while you scurry about slaying your next strawman.
     
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    So, you think the President is justified in stepping aside when local officials are irresponsible?
     
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    We should have people investigating for us. Who wants to look through 14,000 hours of security tapes? That's a full-time job for seven years.

    Pelosi's communications? Sure. Someone can go through those, too, but they aren't public property the way videos of common areas in the Capitol are.
    I can see you aren't prepared to let the facts get in the way of a good hanging.
     
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    Let some one that was there when Trump authorized the guard tell you.... Please feel free to look up your CNN link (AKA Fake news) that says otherwise from people who were not there..

    Meadows: “Even in January, that was a given, as many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense. That was a direct order from President Trump
    https://rumble.com/vdppf9-does-this-sound-like-trump-inciting-an-insurrection.html

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    Here is another person that was in the room when Trump authorized the guard..

    https://rumble.com/vjkuqr-former-ac...ed-to-deploy-national-guard-on-jan-6-and.html

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    Two people in the room when Trump authorized the guard... something WaPo and CNN would get near..
    https://rumble.com/v17lpid-former-secretary-of-defense-chris-miller-and-kash-patel-on-hannity.html

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    Why didn't he station them outside the Capitol at the end of the Mall? Geez, you guys have a million excuses for the Orange Oaf do nothing for three hours while the riot was taking place.
     
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    There is nothing there for him to step aside and especially in this case.

    Again when are you claiming he should have taken this extraordinary unconstitutional step to send federal troops onto the streets of DC and surrounding the Capital against the expressed orders of the local officials?
     
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    They cannot be on the streets of DC without her first requesting them she had as much a role as the Capital leadership in the security that day.

    What do you mean take my word for it what are you denying?


    YES...................GEEEZZZZZ that's what we have been telling you over and over and over. SHE has to request them and she requested the 340 for TRAFFIC control away from the Capital and they were not to be armed with riot gear or weapons. And then on Jan she she wrote the DoD to expressly and unequivocally to NOT send anymore and to NOT transfer the 340 from where the DC Police had assigned them to anywhere else including the Capital.

    YES as we have been telling you. TRUMP WANTED THEM THERE in case there was violence between groups as the crowds were going to be so large. He did not do ANYTHING to prevent troops being there and had instructed the DoD that IF the Capital leadership or the DC Mayor changed their minds and submitted request they were to be immediately acted upon.
     
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    I see you're still pretending he didn't have the authority to do something when others were dropping the ball.

    10 U.S. Code § 252 - Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

    "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2016-title10/html/USCODE-2016-title10-subtitleA-partI-chap13-sec252.htm
    You don't like 10 U.S. Code Code § 252 so you say it's unconstitutional. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
     
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    And WHEN was he specifically suppose to invoke it and under what threat, when was the DC police no longer a viable law enforcement agency, when did the Capital police fall apart and was unable to enforce the law they arrested over 800 people that day.

    When was Trump supposed to have sent those troops into the streets surrounding the Capital in violation of the specific denials of authority to do so by the Mayor and the Congressional leadership.

    You do know General Milley was going around in the days before stating that ANY orders by Trump to send in the military should be considered a military coup and any such orders were to be run through him? That the MSM and Dems were screaming that "TRUMP WILL NEVER STEP DOWN HE WILL CALL OUT THE MILITARY!!!".

    And here the best you have is trying to blame him for the lack of security in DC and at the Capital when he had nothing to do with it.
     
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    "When?" In time to have the DC Guard in place if the DC Metro Police and Capitol Police did not have an adequate plan. There was a lot of intelligence that large numbers of militant protesters were on the way. Trump himself was encouraging protest.
    This is just you trying to let the Orange Oaf off the hook.
     
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    When and on what basis. When was he told a rebellion was going to happen? When was he told the Capital was going to be invaded? He had no authority to override the DC police and Mayor or the Capital Hill leadership and Police and order federal troops. He had no jurisdiction to so. And we know General Milley was telling the military to NOT do so because it would signal Trump was starting some military coup (an aft for which Milley should have been court martialed)

    I know you are just desperate to get "orange man" on something anything......but then in utter hypocracy whining he didn't commit an unconstitutional act and engage in a military take over of DC and the Capital.
     
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    You mean like his tweets telling them to be peaceful and respect the police? Something more he was supposed to do?
     
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    No, he is pointing out there is no hook.
     
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    It wasn't impracticable. Extra 50 local and Capitol Police with riot gear could of enforced the law.


    Locals were able to suppress the "rebellion" themselves without the guard. They were not necessary.
     
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    I told you: "In time to have the DC Guard in place if the DC Metro Police and Capitol Police did not have an adequate plan."
    Rinse, repeat...

    I see you're still pretending he didn't have the authority to do something when others were dropping the ball.

    10 U.S. Code § 252 - Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

    "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2016-title10/html/USCODE-2016-title10-subtitleA-partI-chap13-sec252.htm
    Trump should never have been President.
     
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    Protect the Capitol, the elected representatives, Capitol employees and visitors.
     
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    No, he's pretending Trump didn't have the power to protect the Capitol. He did.

    10 U.S. Code § 252 - Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

    "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2016-title10/html/USCODE-2016-title10-subtitleA-partI-chap13-sec252.htm

    Trump failed.
     
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    The "locals" did a bang up job. :no: :no: :no:
     
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    WHEN, the day before? A week before. When was he supposed to launch this military invasion and on what grounds. There was NO rebellion being reported and the DC Mayor and Capital Hill Police Department had stated UNEQUIVICALLY they had adequate law enforcement and were in total control of the situation. There was NO basis for 10 U.S. Code 252 declaration.

    And AGAIN there was already the hair of fire reporting by the left that Trump would never step down and would call in the military to keep him in power.

    Trump considered a military coup: Would he have gotten away with it?
    Some Trump allies urged him to declare martial law. Brennan Center expert on the nightmare scenario after that
    https://www.salon.com/2022/05/23/considered-a-military-coup-would-he-have-gotten-away-with-it/

    Security on the streets of DC and at the Capital for domestic law enforcement is NOT in his jurisdiction.
     
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    However long the DC Guard need to deploy to the area--and wait.
    Invasion of the DC Guard? Egads.
    The President decides, not you.
    What the neighbors say? What leftwingers say? Egads.
    Because you say so?
     
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    A couple of hours is all it takes. The Mayor and Capital Hill instructed them NOT TO SEND THEM.

    That's what it would been called, a military coup by Trump.

    Circumstances and the law dictate

    There was NO rebellion being reported and the DC Mayor and Capital Hill Police Department had stated UNEQUIVICALLY they had adequate law enforcement and were in total control of the situation. There was NO basis for 10 U.S. Code 252 declaration.

    You are denying the MSM and the Dems were crying Trump would never leave office and would call out the military to stay in power? You are denying Milley was trying to tell the military NOT to deploy if Trump ordered it because it would be a sign of his military coup and take over?

    Because the law and the Constitution says so.
     
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    When did they inform the DoD or President that they did not have adequate law enforcement capability?
     
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