So you think Trump is going to win the election, eh? Not so fast.....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Apr 6, 2024.

  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    @Junkieturtle
    “I have posted several times that if Biden is guilty, charge him and arrest him.”
    Tell us who’s responsibility it is to do that….
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure... now you prove otherwise...

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    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahahahahahahaha! That's some MAGA cognitive dissonance.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funny how Cohen was a "secret Russian agent", but they use him as a trusted source in the trials against Trump now, after lying, two, maybe three times now... It is hard to keep up.

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yea... one can see why they did not want these documents Trump declassified out as it shows the involvement of the US government in the fake Russian hoax...
    which would be included in daily briefs to then Prez Obama and current Prez Biden..

    https://vault.fbi.gov/

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    My... the DOJ sure did not want the lie they created to get out...

    https://vault.fbi.gov/

    What better reason to raid Mar-a-lago to get them back with a "Special Access Request" form the Biden administration...
    even after Trump declassified these documents... Looks like the "National Security" issue was created by the DOJ and not Trump...



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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you think Vice President Biden had documents that the DOJ wanted hid away from the public? Did he have "National Security" documents that gave away sources and methods and communications?

    Kind of funny that 300 Trump documents turned into "thousands"... Please show us the box with a classified documents in the FBI picture... according to some there is one in each of these boxes..
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Actually former VICE PRESIDENT Biden had plenty of people milling around his documents.... former VICE PRESIDENT Biden had up to SEVEN, if not more locations, that would not be handled by the folks without appropriate clearances in unauthorized and unsecure locations... And remember, former PRESIDENT Trump had the lifetime Secret Service detail around his ONE location, for SEVERAL MONTHS.. While former VICE PRESIDENT Joe Biden had his for SEVEN YEARS.... in multiple locations..

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/docume...pecial-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

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    Not mine and I have no control over it. I can only give my opinion on what should happen. That's all any of us on this forum can do. It's not up to me whether Biden gets charged or Trump gets charged, I can only signal my agreement or disagreement. So my position is this: If you're a politician who broke the law, you have no right to complain(and neither do your supporters) when you get charged for it. Hell, that applies to everyone in all walks of life, not just politicians.

    So you can go on and on about how Biden hasn't been charged, but at the end of the day, your opinion is that he SHOULD be charged while Trump should not, and that's where the hypocrisy begins.
     
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    So send Biden to jail too. If he gets charged and convicted, I'll join you in waving byebye. Biden doesn't deserve a pass any more than Trump does.
     
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    I can see why you need to believe that to stave off an impending feeling of hypocrisy, so I'll just let you have your fantasy despite it being 100% fabricated in your own mind.
     
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    ""Not mine and I have no control over it.""
    Well.... help us out @Junkieturtle..... who would you think would be responsible to charge him and arrest him? .... besides you.
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

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    Weasel words.

    Please be specific, focused, clear & concise, if you don't mind. But, that claptrap of verbal vomit doesn't qualify as anything in the ballpark of coherent. .

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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "Weasel words."

    "non-rebuttal" a word that means you use less the mature responses and cheap words as an argument...
     
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    Good job by your own definition you misused the term...
     
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    The difference is that Trump is a sociopathic pathological LIAR. He literaly lives in an alternate reality , IF Biden has DELIBERATELY lied.... and there have been negative consequences from the lies.......that is unacceptable too.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your comment was a syntax nightmare, hence my request, which, given that fact, was reasonable.
     
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    How can Biden's lies not be deliberate? Given some of his lies on his academic achievements and about events which could not have been possible because of the time lines.
     
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    Okay I'll try to dumb it down for you. What the left has been calling Trump lies vary in the main between failed predictions, disagreement over ideas which the left calls lies whenever they don't perfectly align with leftist dogma, and exaggeration. For instance Trump predicted he would get Mexico to pay for the wall. He failed to meet that prediction which makes it a faulty prediction but not lie. Trump has an amazing amount of self confidence. Obviously disagreeing with leftist policy positions is not a lie no matter how much it annoys the left. And the left auto assumes lies anytime some one not a leftist makes an honest mistake
     
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    As I have not seen a record of Biden's lies... I would welcome an example. Do you think that Trump is an example of truth, honesty, integrity and credibility?? If so, on what basis??
    A generalization is that all politicians stretch the truth. The issue is one of degree and consequences. Why would anyone in THEIR RIGHT MIND even infer , suggest or consider the use of disinfectants to treat Covid?? (a virus) IF Trump believed that , then he is more dangerous and insane than appears on the surface. IF he made that up (lied)......and people , as we know, TRIED it.......there are dangerous consequences to those remarks. People in influential / leadership positions have to be very careful as to what they say.... as the public is varied, and can be very gullible. It is a really CRAZY (insane) thing to say to anyone......let alone using the megaphone that Trump had.

    Anyhow back to topic.. Don't think anyone can really prdict if Trump or Biden will win. But Trump has a lot of odds against him.(and an almost overwhelming amount of really bad baggage) His chronic fight to delay / dismiss his legal problems is not working. Things will get a lot more dramatic as his court proceedings begin...
     
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    Stretch the truth. Wow. Just try googling. Here is his classic.
    BIDEN ACADEMIC CLAIMS 'INACCURATE' - The Washington Post

    I have made no claims about Trump's honesty.
     
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    Oh, I see, Trump doesn't lie, he only engages in 'truthful hyperbole'.

    Just like saying democrats rigging the election before the first ballot was cast is not a lie.

    Just like calling democrats communists is not a lie.

    Just like saying Biden is going to destroy democracy is not a lie

    Just like calling immigrants 'vermin' is not a lie.

    I got about 30,000 more, if you are interested in volume.

    But, when Biden said he hasn't made a nickel from his son's business, not to mention there is no proof that he has, that is a lie of the highest order.

    Is that dumb enough for you?
     
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    How many different things has his son died of and in how many different locations according to biden. Biden said he graduated at the top of his class the reality is closer to the bottom. Trump never suggested any one drink bleach to get rid of covid. He simply asked Fauci if there was some way to make use that info to treat covid. That's not a suggestion to drink bleach as the NYT and a lot of other leftist media immediately tried to suggest. May the deaths of the hand full of idiots that tried it be charged at their hands
     
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    That you still believe there is no evidence that Biden profited from his son's business of selling of access to dear old dad speaks only to the color of the political blinders you wear.
    The biden admin is engaged in a full scale assault on the first four amendments. He, as well as far to many other Democrats, are now firmly placed upon the Nietzschean path of becoming that which they claim to most fear.
     
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    How is that proof that all the files that Trump had were related to Crossfire Hurricane!

    Even Trump did not say that. None were Crossfire Hurricane documents.

    Just some of the documents he is charged with:
    1. [TS//NF//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 3, 2018, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries

    2. [TS//SI//NF//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 9, 2018, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries.

    3. [TS//SI//NF//FISA] Undated document concerning military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States, with handwritten annotation in black marker

    4. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated May 6, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to foreign countries, including military activities and planning of foreign countries.

    5. [TS//XX/XX//ORCON//NF] Document dated June 2020, concerning nuclear capabilities of a foreign country

    6. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated June 4, 2020, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries

    7. [S//NF] Document dated October 21, 2018, concerning communications with a leader of a foreign country.

    8. [S//REL FVEY]Document dated October 4, 2019, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country.

    9. [TS//XX/X//ORCON/NF/FISA] Undated document concerning military attacks by a foreign country

    10. [TS//TK//NF] Document dated November 2017, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country

    11. [S//REL FVEY]Undated document concerning military contingency planning of the United States

    12. [S//REL FVEY] Paged of undated document concerning projected regional military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States

    13. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Undated document concerning military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States

    14. [S//ORCON/NF] Document dated January 2020, concerning military options of a foreign country and potential effects on United States interests

    15. [S//ORCON/NF] Document dated February 2020 concerning policies in a foreign country

    16. [S//ORCON//NF] Document dated December 2019, concerning foreign country support of terrorist acts against United States interests

    17. [TS//X/TK/ORCON/IMCON/NF] Document dated January 2020 concerning military capabilities of a foreign country

    18. [S//NF] Document dated March 2020 concerning military operations against United States forces and others

    19. [S/FRD] Undated document concerning nuclear weaponry of the United States

    20. [[TS//XX/ORCON//NF] Undated document concerning timeline and details of attack in a foreign country

    21. [S//NF] Undated document concerning military capabilities of foreign countries

    22. [TS//X/RSEN/ORCON//NF] Document dated August 2019, concerning military activity of a foreign country

    23. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated August 30, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries, with handwritten annotation in black marker

    24. [[TS//HCS-P/SI//ORCON-USGOV/NF] Undated document concerning military activity of a foreign country

    25. [[TS//HCS-P/SI//ORCON-USGOV/NF] Document dated October 24, 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries and the United States

    26. [[TS//X//ORCON//NF/FISA] Document dated November 7, 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries and the United States

    27. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Document dated November 2019, concerning military activity of foreign countries

    28. [TS//SPECIAL HANDLING] Document dated October 18, 2019, concerning White House intelligence briefing related to various foreign countries

    29. [TS//X/SI/TK//ORCON/NF]Document dated October 18, 2019, concerning military capabilities of a foreign country

    30. [TS//X/ORCON/NF/FISA] Document dated October 15, 2019, concerning military activity in a foreign country

    31. [TS//SI/TK//NF] Document dated February 2017, concerning military activity of a foreign country
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    • TS: TOP SECRET

    • S: SECRET
     

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